oil temp question

Unknown
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edited November -1 in HUDSON
i have noticed that my oil stays cool . i have ran the car for 20 minutes or better the coolant is good and hot but when i check the oil it seems cool? it is on my 31 straight eight is it a splash system or does it have an oil pump that may not be working? it does not tap or knock runs nice and quiet and smooth (except timing needs finely adjusted). any advice?



thanks



bob

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    My 1929 Hudson takes allot to heat up 9 quarts of oil as only a small amount at a time goes thru the engine and most stays in the oil pan. The coolant is always running a good size amout thru the engine all the time. Ron
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    thank you ! i thought i had a water in oil problem but realized i did not change it after changing head gaskets! it seem sok now i just need to get the timing set and i haven't a clue i went to the website and printed instructions but the look french to me right now i need to read over and over and digest it i guess , was hoping for a shortcut.



    thanks



    bob
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Hi Bob,



    You can use a modern 12V timing light to check your ignition timing. Power the timing light off a 12V battery from another vehicle, or lawn mower, whichever is handy. Then attach the inductive lead clamp of the timing light to the number one plug wire on the Hudson, and that should do it. Hudson stamped the timing marks for #1 cyl. on the front surface of the flywheel. These are visible through an inspection hole on the front of the rear engine support plate,(you will use the same inspection hole to access the plug to fill the clutch oil when servicing the clutch). I don't have first hand experience for the 1931 8cyl., but one side of the hole radius should have a flat area that serves as a pointer to line the timing marks up with. If you pull the #1 plug, then turn the engine over by hand until you feel it coming up on the compression stroke, when it reaches TDC you will see the timing marks show up in the hole. There should be a long mark followed by either the letters D.C. 1-8, or UDC-1. Maybe someone on here with one of these engines can help out with what the exact lettering combination is for sure. Depending on the engine, there may be 4 shorter marks spaced about 1/4" apart right before the long mark. At any rate the long mark is the TDC mark for setting the timing. Hope this may be a help to you.



    Essexly,

    Dave Bean
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    thank you very imformative . just want to be clear, put the conductor on the #1 plug wire after making sure the valve is wide open, the light should flash and light up the long mark with the tdc mark , if not i have to move the distributor until it is .would chalking the mark be my best way to see it ? also i put a new set of points in what is the gap exactly i think i ma close it starts fine and idles like a clock but on a load seems sluggish and gets a little hot . i am guessing timing. we did it by ear when we finaly got her to run after 30 years. i apreciate any and all help!
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    Essex4 wrote:
    Hi Bob,



    If you pull the #1 plug, then turn the engine over by hand until you feel it coming up on the compression stroke, when it reaches TDC you will see the timing marks show up in the hole. There should be a long mark followed by either the letters D.C. 1-8, or UDC-1. Maybe someone on here with one of these engines can help out with what the exact lettering combination is for sure. Depending on the engine, there may be 4 shorter marks spaced about 1/4" apart right before the long mark. At any rate the long mark is the TDC mark for setting the timing. Hope this may be a help to you.



    Essexly,

    Dave Bean



    Hi Bob,



    I had included the above information in my timing light suggestion to help make sure that you located the correct timing mark. Didn't mean to confuse the situation. The reason being, on my Essex 4cyl. there are marks in four locations on the front of the flywheel, #1 TDC, as well as the TDC locations for the other cylinders, and didn't know how many years, or what other engines they might have stamped multiple marks as well. The additional marks on are for use while adjusting the valves.



    After locating the correct mark, reinstall the spark plug, and the plug wire. Fire up the car, and get it fully warmed up, so it idles down low. Get the timing light rigged up to a 12V battery, and attach the third lead of the timing light to the #1 plug wire, and see if the long TDC mark lines up with the pointer on the edge of the inspection hole when it flashes. Turn the distributor as needed to adjust.



    You are right in that it will be a big help to chalk, or put some white paint on the long #1 TDC mark to make it easier to see when the timing light flashes.

    I don't have the point gap spec. for 1931, but the 1935-52 8cyl. point gap was .017". Maybe someone on here that has a 31 Hudson 8 will post some more specific info to help you out.



    Essexly,

    Dave
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    thanks cant wait to get it going! ill keep you posted hopefully this weekend.
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    Things are slightly more technical with your car, as it has dual points. You need to set both sets of points at .018 clearance, then time T.D.C. 1-8 by turning the distributor so that it is firing at idle 2 to 3 flywheel teeth b.t.d.c.. Lock the distributor in place, and then check timing marks for t.c.c. 3-6, and set at the same setting by moving the adjustable plate inside the distributor that the movable points are mounted on. Hope this hleps,

    Geoff.
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