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I am considering loading the '53 coupe in the trailer, and bringing it with my motorhome to the Nationals.
Are there any campgrounds reasonably close to the site? I could probably commute with the coupe if it wasn't too far away I guess.
Motorhome is a 40 footer, and trailer adds another 26 feet, so its a bit awkward to find spaces big enough sometimes.
Maybe its like the Nationals at Madison a few years back ? I parked the m/h right on the hotel grounds that year, but that time I didn't have the trailer.
Anybody know what's what for us would-be "campers" at this event ?
silverone.
Are there any campgrounds reasonably close to the site? I could probably commute with the coupe if it wasn't too far away I guess.
Motorhome is a 40 footer, and trailer adds another 26 feet, so its a bit awkward to find spaces big enough sometimes.
Maybe its like the Nationals at Madison a few years back ? I parked the m/h right on the hotel grounds that year, but that time I didn't have the trailer.
Anybody know what's what for us would-be "campers" at this event ?
silverone.
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The Metamora-Hadley recreational area is about 25 miles north just off M-24if you'd like to drive that far. It's quite nice but gets very busy. I think you can reserve a space; I will look it up and post here. If you google "metamora-hadley" the site comes up.0
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There are several of us here in Florida looking for the same thing, closer if possible.
Maybe as many as four motorhomes with trailers to date.. . So far, all the nearby by ones are closed for the season, so we have hit a dead end. The host hotels would allow us to park but not stay in the coaches. We may just have to wait until spring. a local HETr's input would be welcome.0 -
silverone wrote:
I'll try to help on this one. A couple of different camping sites: Groveland Oaks in Holly, about 28 miles and 28 minutes to hotel and Pontiac State Recreation campground in Waterford about 15 miles and 24 minutes to hotel. I don't think you can make reservations until 6 months prior-not sure-you'll have to check that. Here are the sites www.michigandnr.com and www.oakgov.com/parksrec/I am considering loading the '53 coupe in the trailer, and bringing it with my motorhome to the Nationals.
Are there any campgrounds reasonably close to the site? I could probably commute with the coupe if it wasn't too far away I guess.
Motorhome is a 40 footer, and trailer adds another 26 feet, so its a bit awkward to find spaces big enough sometimes.
Maybe its like the Nationals at Madison a few years back ? I parked the m/h right on the hotel grounds that year, but that time I didn't have the trailer.
Anybody know what's what for us would-be "campers" at this event ?
silverone.
I know there is parking for trailers at the hotel, but as stated before, you can't stay in your moterhome at the hotel site.0 -
Joe30Essex wrote:I'll try to help on this one. A couple of different camping sites: Groveland Oaks in Holly, about 28 miles and 28 minutes to hotel and Pontiac State Recreation campground in Waterford about 15 miles and 24 minutes to hotel. I don't think you can make reservations until 6 months prior-not sure-you'll have to check that. Here are the sites www.michigandnr.com and www.oakgov.com/parksrec/
I know there is parking for trailers at the hotel, but as stated before, you can't stay in your moterhome at the hotel site.
28 miles is a bit farther than I'd hoped for Joe, but maybe that'll have to do if there's nothing closer. Does make for quite a commute twice a day though, if the wife or Grandkids have had enough of Hudsons for the day, and want to go back to the motorhome for awhile.
I'd be happy with just a place nearby where I could just park the rig. We're completely self contained and good for a week if need be with no external input required. Just a plain old bare bones parking lot would do the trick.
Maybe I'll "hotel it" instead, and bring my pickup. Does any of the host hotels have a waterslide? That's the secret to keeping the kids happy !! Works like a charm wherever we travel with them, and they always want to go with us next time if there will be a waterslide.
Gotta make the trip a winner with all aboard you know !! They're not quite as nuts as I am when it comes to Hudsons :-)
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silverone wrote:28 miles is a bit farther than I'd hoped for Joe, but maybe that'll have to do if there's nothing closer. Does make for quite a commute twice a day though, if the wife or Grandkids have had enough of Hudsons for the day, and want to go back to the motorhome for awhile.
I'd be happy with just a place nearby where I could just park the rig. We're completely self contained and good for a week if need be with no external input required. Just a plain old bare bones parking lot would do the trick.
Maybe I'll "hotel it" instead, and bring my pickup. Does any of the host hotels have a waterslide? That's the secret to keeping the kids happy !! Works like a charm wherever we travel with them, and they always want to go with us next time if there will be a waterslide.
Gotta make the trip a winner with all aboard you know !! They're not quite as nuts as I am when it comes to Hudsons :-)
silverone.
When I was at the Auburn Indiana Natioanl the Wal Mart had several Hudson folks with motor homes parked and staying there.0 -
Yep, you can always park at Wal-Marts, they allow RV's to park there overnight and during the day.0
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Our local Wal-mart has about 6 folks that call their parking lot home I think. They've been there for about a year.0
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We have an enclosed Race Trailer that is fully equipped inside for wknd RV camping and been wondering about a closer campground too since we dont do anything there except sleep. Maybe Walmart is closer so we can cruise around all day or guess we better consider one of the hotels.
I wonder how close Walmart is to the National?0 -
Wal Mart 5 miles from the meet site @ 2500 S. Adams Rd. Rochester Hills, MI 48309
There's another 8 miles out - 2001 West Maple Road Troy, MI 48084
Hudsonly
Alex Burr
HudsonTech
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If Diesel fuel is inexpensive by this summer, then we will be able to attend , and bring our truck camper.0
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I hope to pull my 1958 DeVille vintage travel trailer to the National behind my '50C6, color coordinated, but I will just leave it in the parking lot as a room for my dog, we have a hotel reservation! I have a lot of work to do on the '50C6 to make this happen, upgrade to 12v, pull engine to fix rear main seal leak, etc. I have driven it to two Nationals, Nashville & Seattle, but the old girl, "Queen of the Road" is a bit tired and in need of some attention!0
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Good news is parts and expertise will be more available when you're at the Nationals. So you darn sure should tow it there if you want to get anything done. I'm picturing half the parking lot of 1000 cars looking like a makeshift Hudson assembly line. heheheheh - KEEP EM ON THE ROAD!!!0
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On the Walmart subject. Some local codes prohibit Walmart from allowing camping over night. No doubt instigated by the hotel and campground owners,,For instance St Cloud and Kissimmee Florida Walmarts are posted.. "No overnight camping"..sooo A check with the local WM mangement would be prudent. In July,it's HOT and i don't relish the thought of running a generator all night... Any locals want to rent me a space with electric? LOL0
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Nevada Hudson wrote:If Diesel fuel is inexpensive by this summer, then we will be able to attend , and bring our truck camper.
I imagine if the hotel dosen't want anyone staying in his/her motorhome on their grounds, Nevada, the same would apply to someone sleeping in his camper. One would think if the hotel is full, then its not taking revenue away from it, to do that, but generally the hotels all collaberate together, when one is full up, it refers its traffic to another, and visa versa.
As was mentioned, maybe this is a great opportunity for the locals to make a few bucks parking motorhomes, campers etc., for a few nights. Same would go for a shut-down business nearby, with an empty lot.
Looks like I might have to fly in, just me and the wife, leave the car and Grandkids home, and stay in a hotel room. Its a five thousand mile round trip for me, and after spending that kind of dough just for fuel alone, hassles finding place to park the motorhome doesn't really appeal to me. Yes, Walmart is gracious enough not to hassle an overnighter in most towns and cities, but their courtesy is more geared to those who drift in late some night, park the rig without setting up a "camp" on their lot, staying the night, dropping in to the store in the morning for a few items, and heading on their way. I think we'd be getting some funny looks from security, if we were still there five days later, and I for one won't like that one bit. I'd much rather pay for my stay if I could, but that'd probably rankle the local campground owners if Walmart ever started doing that, not to mention the city ordinace officials.
Not sure what I'm going to do now.
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Silverone-
Campground or no, and motorhome and car or no, I still look forward to finally meeting y'all.0 -
RL Chilton wrote:Silverone-
Campground or no, and motorhome and car or no, I still look forward to finally meeting y'all.
That goes for me too Russell. I'm sure looking forward to that day. :-)
Ryan (silverone)0 -
SuperDave wrote:There are several of us here in Florida looking for the same thing, closer if possible.
Maybe as many as four motorhomes with trailers to date.. . So far, all the nearby by ones are closed for the season, so we have hit a dead end. The host hotels would allow us to park but not stay in the coaches. We may just have to wait until spring. a local HETr's input would be welcome.
So here's just a thought, but who knows, maybe its a possibility.
Since there dosen't seem to be any local campgrounds that can accomodate us, at least with large rigs, and since we're really not there for the "camping" anyway, and just looking for a place to park the rigs to attend a totally unrelated to camping event, maybe the event organizers could approach the managers of say, the local fairgrounds, or maybe a grassy ballpark, or even Walmart for that matter, and ask them if there's any way they could issue some "passes", or something similar, for a fee, to just park a rig, (no services of course), either daily, or maybe a five day pass, or whatever fits this event. Obviously, even places like Walmart will not have unlimited room, so the passes could limit the number of rigs they could accomodate, by predetermining the number, and issuing only that amount.
I'd happily pay up to $25 or $30 bucks a day to just park the rig where I could leave it without worrying all day that its unsecured somewhere, and I really should be checking on it, rather than enjoying myself yakking it up with my fellow Hudsonites.
Could be a win-win if set up right, IMO --- bring more people and cars to the event, put a few more bucks in the municipal coffers, etc. etc. Obviously, if Walmart was the authorized spot, they'd have a ton of shoppers in the store at all times of day, from the rigs alone, and I know from experience, every time I go in there with my wife, its at least a $50.00 hit, and more often well over a hundred.
Anyway, -- just thinking out loud.
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Ok, gang. I emailed a local HET'er in the area about Wal Mart - good news..........and bad.
"This was discussed at tonight's meeting, the short answer is no. There is no overnight parking at the local Walmart. The nearest camp ground is about 8 miles away! Not too close. and the powers that be asked the hotels and there is no staying in the campers on site, you can park it there but you must rent a room."
Well, we knew it wasn't going to be easy.
Seems to me the hotels are cutting their noses off, etc. Seems to me they are losing a lot of peripheral business, ie, people not wanting to get up lunch or dinner so eating at the hotel - things like this.
I've asked Mike about the campground and will post info as soon as I get it.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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Ok, here's a followup on a nearby campground. It's the Ponitac Lake Recreation Area. This is a tad closer, being about 15 miles out - but from the looks of Streets and Trips it's fairly easy to get to from the meet site.
The web page with info is @: http://tinyurl.com/58mfqb
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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Can't see if the Hotels sold out why they make such a big deal out of someone in a camper or motor home on the property. They can charge a fee. They would also get extra revenue for meals and drinks from the extra people around. No problem with the hotel in Pittsburgh when we brought our camper ( We did pay and stay in a room there, but there were others that were allowed to stay in their Rv's) Plenty of Rv's were allowed at our last National in Marborough. If a hotel is going to have all this extra revenue for a National meet, they need to bend a little . Maybe at the next buisness meeting we can bring this subject up.0
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I dunno -- having to park 15 miles away, kind of makes a Guy feel not part of the event, so to speak, especially if he's out there all by himself. A group of motorhomes and campers, all together for the same common purpose, seems a lot more friendly if you know what I mean, especailly in the evenings when there'd be lots of socializing back and forth after the days events at the hotel.
It looks like the local Walmart is one of the "unfriendly' ones, and if there's no closer place to park with some of the other participants, maybe I'll forget about bringing the m/h. Its a long way to drive a rig that becomes a burden the minute we arrive.
It'll be cheaper by far to fly in anyway, but the car is gonna be tough to get through the baggage check !!
silverone0 -
I miss the nightly browsin camping nearby brings. I am hopefull to have my long time modified drag car present and leave all the Rods home to test & tune the pontential for the local popular Airport drags in my area. Maybe gather some pointers too since I became a little rusty in my hiatis...0
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Nevada Hudson wrote:Can't see if the Hotels sold out why they make such a big deal out of someone in a camper or motor home on the property. They can charge a fee. They would also get extra revenue for meals and drinks from the extra people around. No problem with the hotel in Pittsburgh when we brought our camper ( We did pay and stay in a room there, but there were others that were allowed to stay in their Rv's) Plenty of Rv's were allowed at our last National in Marborough. If a hotel is going to have all this extra revenue for a National meet, they need to bend a little . Maybe at the next buisness meeting we can bring this subject up.
You certainly bring up some valid points Ray. If it's a matter of not having enough space, that's one thing - and perhaps should have been considered when choosing a hotel. In this case there are 3 Mariotts shoulder to shoulder so space shouldn't have been a problem.
The hotel is certainly loosing out on the cash end of it - as you say charge a fee of, say $25 a night. A little more expensive than a campground, maybe, but still cheaper than driving 50 miles a day back and forth to the camper. And, yes, there is the matter of local meal consumption, etc.
On the other hand, and this hasn't come up, except in the case, possibly, of Wal Mart, some cities have ordnances banning staying in campers and motor homes. This may be the case. One can certainly see the cities point of view - the way the economy is going cities, and towns, are afraid of "Bush-villes" suddenly sprouting up all over the place. And, unfortunately, they have a point.
Be aware the National committee is being kept aware of this problem.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
HudsonTech
Memphis, TN0 -
Keep in mind that all we are asking is for a place to "park" a motorhome close by, not to "camp" in a motorhome.
Big difference.
silverone.0 -
silverone wrote:Keep in mind that all we are asking is for a place to "park" a motorhome close by, not to "camp" in a motorhome.
Big difference.
silverone.
I think I was told that you can park in the Hotel parking lot, but not stay in the camper. Just to clarify the Orange Blossom Chapter members needs...Silverone wants a place to park. We from Florida want a place to camp. As he said, "Big difference". 0 -
SuperDave wrote:
Just to clarify...You CAN park your motorhome at the Hotel site, you just can't "sleep" in it overnight. I was not at the last meeting for the Home Chapter, but I know this has been discussed in past meetings and I'm pretty sure it won't change. There will also be plenty of space to park trailers if you bring your Hudson that way. We probably won't make everyone happy, but we are trying to have a great meet.I think I was told that you can park in the Hotel parking lot, but not stay in the camper. Just to clarify the Orange Blossom Chapter members needs...Silverone wants a place to park. We from Florida want a place to camp. As he said, "Big difference".0 -
http://www.michigandnr.com/ParksandTrails/Details.aspx?id=472&type=SPRK
Here's the link to Hadley-Metamora rec area. Straight up M-24 from the hotel. There are 214 sites with electric hookups and there are modern shower facilities. It's usually about a 30-35 minute ride.
Keep in mind the I-75 corridor is usually a mess with construction at that time of year. Last summer we were treated to a few miles of one lane in each direction. When not under construction, traffic routinely moves at over 80 mph. M-24 can back up a little during rush hour too...
There are quite a few large hotels in Auburn Hills (10 minutes or so North of host hotel) as well.
see you there...0
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