Oil into top tray in a splasher

Jim Kilday

I know it has been discussed on this forum but I cannot seem to find those threads.



How can you get oil into the top tray without removing the oil pan?



Thanks.

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Jim Kilday wrote:

I know it has been discussed on this forum but I cannot seem to find those threads.



How can you get oil into the top tray without removing the oil pan?



Thanks.

Remove valve covers and slowly pour oil through the drain holes. 2 quarts should do it. Walt.

Richard E.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have always been told that if one pours the oil into the filler tube that it fills the top tray and then continues on into the oil pan. I have always followed this procedure, including after a complete rebuild and have never experienced a problem??

Unknown

Richard E. wrote:

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have always been told that if one pours the oil into the filler tube that it fills the top tray and then continues on into the oil pan. I have always followed this procedure, including after a complete rebuild and have never experienced a problem??

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You have been lucky Richard, there is a 2 inch square opening in the top tray that is directly below the fill hole that your dipstick AND the oil goes thru to the main pan, there is no way any will get in the top tray by the fill hole . Also the way it is made I would take BOTH covers off to be sure it gets in all the dipper valleys before it drains down to the main pan .---BUD

Unknown

Richard E. wrote:

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have always been told that if one pours the oil into the filler tube that it fills the top tray and then continues on into the oil pan. I have always followed this procedure, including after a complete rebuild and have never experienced a problem??

You have been told wrong and have been very lucky not to mess up some bearings. Also need to take both covers off so both ends of the top pan is filled. The only place these splasher oil pumps puts the oil is in the top pan. 1 piston in the pump pumps to the front of pan and the other piston to the rear.

MikeWA

Something doesn't sound right here- so you mean to tell me that every backyard mechanic and filling station gas jockey "back in the day" knew enough to take off both valve covers and slowly put 2 quarts in that way? That's just too hard to believe. . .

Geoff

Mike (WA) wrote:

Something doesn't sound right here- so you mean to tell me that every backyard mechanic and filling station gas jockey "back in the day" knew enough to take off both valve covers and slowly put 2 quarts in that way? That's just too hard to believe. . .

That is only the procedure after fitting the sump Mike, for instance after an engine overhaul, or cleaning out the sump. Otherwise it's just a case of putting it int he filler hole. In service, you could never completely change the engine oil, as draining the sump only empties the bottom reservoir, not the troughs.

Geoff.

Unknown

Is it necessary to "prime" the oil pump? It seems to have enough suction to pull the oil from the pan.



I filled the dipper tray before installing the pan assembly. I turned the engine over enough to find timing marks, time the distributor, and check valve adjustment.

ivanz62

Can't one pull the distributor and fill the dipper tray through that hole as an alternative to taking off the tappet doors?

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I would say its easier to pull the tappet covers then chance having to retime the engine. Though when you break it down which would take longer.

Geoff

Providing the pump is not completely dry, it should lift the oil up from the sump. As far as filling the trays are concerned, yes you can take the distributor out if it's easier, but it would be preferable to get oil in both front and back of motor to ensure all troughs are full. The best way of course is to fill the troughs before installing the sump.

Clutchguy

Remember , 6 and 8 cylinder splashers are different. The distribnutor is located on top [41-47] and on the P.side 40 & down. I have found it easiest to fill through the front valve cover,and pour ALL of the oil in at that time. The 6 cyl.engines sit in the chassis much more level that the 8 does. I have found the 8cyl.is done easiest through the dist.hole. Jack the back of the car up to make the engine somewhat level, pour all the oil in at that time. It is also a recommendation to turn the engine, putting the dist.pointing to 12 o'clock or 6 o'clock for easy reference-of course do not turn the engine over until it is back in. I believe if you are able to R&R the oil pan correctly,the dist.won't be an issue either. As mentioned here,there are several ways to do this-BUT DON'T FORGET TO DO IT!! Hope this helps

tigermoth

jim, i think the direct answer to your question is what geoff said, you don't need to add oil. if you are just changing oil, the oil stays in the dipper tray. if it is an overhaul, you have the pan/dipper tray off and you just add oil before you put the pan back on. the oil cannot come out of the dipper tray unless the tray is off the car, in your hand and you pour it out. regards, tom