one more paint question

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I've got one more question concerning paint colors. I called a local automotive paint store and they are unable to get a Dupont paint code to match the Ditzler numbers. Their paint chip books don't go back to 1947. Does anyone know a modern # for the Ditzler 30248 & 30249 Quaker gray and gunmetal?

RL Chilton

coreywalker wrote:

I've got one more question concerning paint colors. I called a local automotive paint store and they are unable to get a Dupont paint code to match the Ditzler numbers. Their paint chip books don't go back to 1947. Does anyone know a modern # for the Ditzler 30248 & 30249 Quaker gray and gunmetal?

Corey-



This won't exactly answer your question, but nice thing about having Ditzler chip colors "in hand", with today's computers, you can take your color sample right to your supplier and the 'puter will scan the color and make you an exact copy. Of course, it's not perfect like a color code. Old samples can fade, etc. But it's one solution if you can't get matching #'s

Park_W

Corey, the problem is that all the tints have changed since the forties and fifties, so the original formulas aren't usable nowadays. One solution is to get your paint from Hibernia, since they evidently have a way of producing the old colors with modern tints. Really, I think the best way to go is not with a custom-mixed color. Better to find a couple of modern colors that are very close to what you want, and use them. That way it's a lot easier to get an accurate match if you have need for more in the future.

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I agree with Park. If you have the original chips for reference, find a local paint supplier that will let you sit and go through his chip books and try to find matches for the two-tone. Make sure you look only in those which he can match (no Duco, etc.)



Be sensitive to when is and is not a good time for you to be in the shop, and showing up with donuts, etc. in the morning can't hurt. And buy the paint from him when you find the right formulas. I would not recommend nitrocellulose lacquer because of durability issues unless you are not going to drive the car.



Tom

Browniepetersen

Most of the older paints that had tints that used red (most of the red, orange to brown ranges) in the tint paint bases were led based paints. When the EPA started regulating the industry they placed a date on when no more paints could be mixed with the led base colors. And by the way, the way they computer mix paints most all used the led based tint colors. So mixing an original color is next to impossible because the base tints are not available to mix with. Your only option is to take a chip to the paint store and see how close they can match the chip. If your paint specialist is "old school" he might be able to change the tint a bit based on experience. I am finding a lot less of that happening with the suppliers today. Getting them to expermint with paint and addatives is becoming harder and harder. As far as type of paint to use there is a good arguement on all of the paints that have been on the market in the past 50 to 70 years. However, the new paints, particularlly the base coat clear coat type is the most user firendly, is a snap to apply because pressure to the gun is lower and is by all accounts almost perfect choice if you hand the ability to start a run every now and then. Wait a bit, sand it out and respray it--perfect job. I also like it because you can paint with it in your front driveway and get a good job as a final project. Good luck---:D:D