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cpr3333
cpr3333 Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
My father gave me his Hudson last year and he wants to make it official by signing the title over to me. I'm guessing that if I go to the Florida DMV with the old title signed over to me, they will require me to turn over to them.



The problem is that I want to keep the title (the actual piece of paper). It has quite a bit of interesting information on it (year by year stamps for registration, who it was purchased from, etc.).



I suggested to my father that he tell the Ohio DMV that he lost the title, but they said that their records wouldn't go back far enough for him to get a replacement title. The next thing we want to try is to make a copy of the original and tell them that original was lost and see if that works, but it got me to wondering - what happens if you really don't have a title? How do you transfer a car for which you have lost the title? How do you get a title for a car that is in your posession but you have no way of proving ownership?



Any other suggestions that would let keep the original paperwork and still have legal title to the car?

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  • super651
    super651 Senior Contributor
    Same thing happened to me. Broadway Title helped me with a new one and you keep the orig. 1-800 464 3222 and ask for a form. or www.broadwaytitle.com They can do it and it is legal

    Hope this helps Rudy
  • In Nevada, if you get the right personat the DMV, they will request that the antique title be sent back with the new title.
  • You may be able to get a title using the Ohio registration and a bill of sale in FL...



    or just have your dad go and request a replacement title in Ohio for his "lost" title



    BTW, please post pics of your new Hudson... we love pics!



    Craig
  • Rudy, That may be true of the state you live in but Broadway title is NOT recognized in about 14 states. I don't know if Florida is one of them. Most states want the old title in their possession before issuing a new title. They destroy the old title so technically there is only one title for one vehicle. If a title is missing or lost some states require that you post a surity bond for a year afterwhich when no claims have been made against the vehicle missing the title, a new title is issued to the bond holder. Rules vary with the states so check with your local DMV.
  • nick s
    nick s Senior Contributor
    Ohio does have the titles back that far in columbus they have back to 1914 or whenever it was that they started. The owner of record (or someone who can legally represent them) just has to file for a duplicate. Registrations however drop out of the system after a brief period of inactivity. If you talk to someone in the registration office they will tell you that they don't have records. The titles are not purged if someone tells you they are move on to someone else.
  • ratlee2
    ratlee2 Expert Adviser
    You might want to check to see if you can keep it before you go to all that trouble. When I got my car from my dad I went in to transfer the title from California to Michigan. The lady behind the counter insisted I keep the old title from 1968 for souvenir. It might be worth a phone call.



    Rich
  • MikeWA
    MikeWA Senior Contributor
    In Washington, you can file for "lost title" replacement- no bond is required, and if no one has made a claim against the car in 3 years, it ripens into a regular title. If you have the old title and transfer it, the old one goes to the state and is presumably destroyed.
  • cpr3333
    cpr3333 Expert Adviser
    Thanks for the suggestions. I think I'll have my father try again at the Ohio DMV for the replacement title. It seems to be the most straightforward way to do it. I asked my father again today what they told him and he told me that he just asked the person at the door who tells you what line to go to rather than actually waiting to speak to an agent (or whatever you call them). Based on what nick s and others suggested, maybe he'd get a better answer if he asked someone else. I think I'll also have a look at the Ohio DMV website - maybe they have a form online.



    Craig, my car isn't much to look at right now. It was my father's regular driver in the rust belt from 1957 or so until 1970 and last ran in 1973. Since then, it has bounced around between various barns and garages. On the plus side, it has been basically indoors for most of that time. Here is a shot I took of it a few years ago and it looks basically the same now. Hopefully, that be changing soon.
  • onerare39
    onerare39 Expert Adviser, Member
    Don't lose sight of your goal. My 1950 Pacemaker Brougham was nicknamed "The Ugly Car" by the previous owner (and I'm ok with that) but I think it's absolutely beautiful. This car is unrestored and has the small back window.
  • Richie
    Richie Senior Contributor
    cpr3333 wrote:
    My father gave me his Hudson last year and he wants to make it official by signing the title over to me. I'm guessing that if I go to the Florida DMV with the old title signed over to me, they will require me to turn over to them.



    The problem is that I want to keep the title (the actual piece of paper). It has quite a bit of interesting information on it (year by year stamps for registration, who it was purchased from, etc.).



    I suggested to my father that he tell the Ohio DMV that he lost the title, but they said that their records wouldn't go back far enough for him to get a replacement title. The next thing we want to try is to make a copy of the original and tell them that original was lost and see if that works, but it got me to wondering - what happens if you really don't have a title? How do you transfer a car for which you have lost the title? How do you get a title for a car that is in your posession but you have no way of proving ownership?



    Any other suggestions that would let keep the original paperwork and still have legal title to the car?



    Chris, take your time and enjoy the journey, mine looked about like yours for a while. Here are two pics of my 50 Brougham, one in progress and the other after it was finished, it took me 3 months to paint it. You will love it when you are finished. Nice car 0nerare39, looks like the twin to mine. Richie.
  • Richie:

    I will vouch that your car rides and drives as good as it looks. It is sharp. I sure like the broughams, and I admire your paint job. Bob
  • Richie
    Richie Senior Contributor
    bobdriveshudson wrote:
    Richie:

    I will vouch that your car rides and drives as good as it looks. It is sharp. I sure like the broughams, and I admire your paint job. Bob



    Thanks for the kind words Bob, I enjoy both driving it and working on it. Richie.
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