Twin-H Linkage Repros

ski4life65

I have been playing with the idea of re-popping Twin-H linkage for awile, and I think I have got it right. I used a CNC plasma cutter to make the pieces that attach to the rod, and sourced the parts to attach to the push rods. I don't know how much of a market there is for these, but maybe you guys can let me know what a fair price would be for these (I have a number in mind.....:D). I can make as many as needed since the CNC is already set up. Let me know what you think.

ski4life65

These are set up for 7/16" head bolts, but can easily be drilled for 1/2". Of course, paint them to taste.



Don

RL Chilton

Great job! Not sure what the market will bear price-wise, or how much demand you might have, though. I'd put in an order if I didn't all ready have 4 sets on hand.

[Deleted User]

They look real good. What did the NOS ones cost when new? Price times rate of inflation(dont compare bread or milk) equals new price. Good luck, Bob

[Deleted User]

I'd be interested in a set... need to know how much. My e-mail is XXXnptelcel@aol.com (drop the XXX's). Thanks, Niels

P.S. Chicks still dig me.

Unknown

I have a twin manifold, but no linkage. I would be interested in a set.

junkcarfann

bobdriveshudson wrote:

They look real good. What did the NOS ones cost when new? Price times rate of inflation(dont compare bread or milk) equals new price. Good luck, Bob

I think there is more to it than that...such as rarity, and demand.

bob ward

Nice job ski4life65. I've seen the odd post on here looking for these linkages, much like yourself I guess, and I did have them on my vague 'projects to tackle one day' list. Now I can remove that one from the list, and thanks for that.



As to how much to charge for them, that is always the tough question for low volume hobby type stuff. Making them in small batches you will probably have an hour in each set, plus materials. I'd be thinking between $60 and $80 would be a fair price to you and a price people would readily pay for them. But that is for you to decide of course and I hope I haven't low-balled you.

Jim Kilday

Are those end retainer clips available aftermarket and , if so, from whom? I could use a few for my 46 linkage--the existing ones are a bit tired?



I'd guess a set of high-quality reproduction Twin-H linkage should cost about a C-note.



j kilday

ski4life65

I just listed a set on Ebay. Maybe that will give me an idea of the market for them. From start to finish, it takes me a couple of hours to bend, thread, weld and assemble each set. That doesn't even count the CNC cutting that I have a buddy do. Jim, the clips for the carbs are available from Albrights (sit down when you ask how much). Hopefully I can get enough to make it worthwhile to continue making them. Maybe that is why this hasn't been tackled before........we'll see.



Don

ski4life65

Thanks Ken.

hudsontech

Ken U-Tx wrote:

It would be helpful to post the Ebay listing #, or at least the exact listing title, to save people time and exasperation searching for it.



Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hudson-Hornet-Twin-H-Linkage-1951-1956-NEW-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa311a440QQitemZ320563422272QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories



Item # 320563422272

I got two things to say - 1st off it's about time somebody took this up and started making repro's. All to often, when Twin-H setups are removed from a parts car, or whatever, the linkage is left behind for whatever reason. Somebody mentioned this was a scarce, hard to find item which it is. And it is a "must have" item - without this linkage you got two dead carburetors;

2ndly I checked your ebay listing - given what I just said I think $100 opening bid is a fair price. You don't run down to your local parts store and pick something like this up for $25 or $30. Check out others selling repro parts and material - their prices do reflect the current economic market.

This club, I think, owes you a debt of gratitude for taking the time to do this project.

[Deleted User]

Do I get a discount for being good looking? LOL

bob ward

The linkage clips should only be worth a few cents each. In this mixed selection for instance http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-12865-motormite-carburetor-linkage-clip-assortment-41016.aspx the clips work out at about 25c each. A bulk supply of the size that you want should be even cheaper.

ski4life65

hudsontech wrote:

I got two things to say - 1st off it's about time somebody took this up and started making repro's. All to often, when Twin-H setups are removed from a parts car, or whatever, the linkage is left behind for whatever reason. Somebody mentioned this was a scarce, hard to find item which it is. And it is a "must have" item - without this linkage you got two dead carburetors;

2ndly I checked your ebay listing - given what I just said I think $100 opening bid is a fair price. You don't run down to your local parts store and pick something like this up for $25 or $30. Check out others selling repro parts and material - their prices do reflect the current economic market.

This club, I think, owes you a debt of gratitude for taking the time to do this project.

Alex, thanks for your support. $100 is about break even (might even be a loss), so hopefully the market will bear a little more, but obviously I'm not in it to make money. I don't think there are many HET businesses that are in the black. I know people are always trying to find these parts so if it gets a few more cars on the road, I will continue to make them. We will see how it goes.

junkcarfann

I think that $200 is more than a fair price for an item that is 100% necessary, and very hard to find.



Think about it...for a Hornet, a 215/75R-15 Coker tire is $189.00 each, just checked at Summit. Also necessary, and you can get a boatload of them if you want.

TwinH

Don, Kudos to you for taking this on and the fine looking job you've done.

In my experience probably 90% of the factory multi-carb setups I've seen

at swap meets,etc have missing or incomplete linkage,heck,your lucky to find

them with the correct carbs most of the time. I would think these will sell

well for you and considering professionally restored Twin-H carbs are

north of $250 each (and you supply the cores). I would think a couple "C"

notes wouldn't be out of line,and of course I can say that because I don't

need any linkage at the present time.;)

Lee ODell

TwinH wrote:

Don, Kudos to you for taking this on and the fine looking job you've done.

In my experience probably 90% of the factory multi-carb setups I've seen

at swap meets,etc have missing or incomplete linkage,heck,your lucky to find

them with the correct carbs most of the time. I would think these will sell

well for you and considering professionally restored Twin-H carbs are

north of $250 each (and you supply the cores). I would think a couple "C"

notes wouldn't be out of line,and of course I can say that because I don't

need any linkage at the present time.;)

DITTO;



That is a very professional looking piece of work. Makes me wish I had a car to put it on. Would make for a good Tech Article for the WTN with pictures. I would think the response would be very favorable. Lee

MikeWA

nhp1127 wrote:

Do I get a discount for being good looking? LOL

Your discount will be getting those chicks who dig you to pony up a few bucks to underwrite your hobby. We'll see how much they REALLY dig you!:D

Roger Harmon

ski4life65 wrote:

I have been playing with the idea of re-popping Twin-H linkage for awile, and I think I have got it right. I used a CNC plasma cutter to make the pieces that attach to the rod, and sourced the parts to attach to the push rods. I don't know how much of a market there is for these, but maybe you guys can let me know what a fair price would be for these (I have a number in mind.....:D). I can make as many as needed since the CNC is already set up. Let me know what you think.

Will your set up work for an Edmunds 2X2 intake?



R/ Roger.

Roger Harmon

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I have an Edmunds 2X2. Will this linkage work for that intake? What carbs would you guys recommend for this manifold, on a 262?



R/ Roger.

ski4life65

I'm not sure if stock linkage will work. I would think so but don't want to assume.........

Looks like $130 (plus shipping) is the price for the setup. Send me a PM if interested.



Don

duncan

hello in hudson land. When I bought my 54 Hoernet Hollywood the engine had a single 2 bbl carb . I found a Twin H set up from a friend that was complete with linkage except for rod with the tierod on each end .I made

this rod and went to install the setup and the bellcrank was wrong . My question can somebody make the bellcrank that the throttle linkage hooks to and also works the tv rod . there is a differsnce between twin H and single carb Sorry for being so long winded. And news flash my nepuew is at the moment doing the interior for the Hollywood. yippy. Ray:D:D:D:D

[Deleted User]

Roger Harmon wrote:

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I have an Edmunds 2X2. Will this linkage work for that intake? What carbs would you guys recommend for this manifold, on a 262?

R/ Roger.

Roger:

WHen racing his Hornet powered Jet, Rudy Bennett from El Paso Texas used a 2X2 carb set up. The set up was manufactured by GIBSON Racing of Australia. This manifold and carburator combination is thougth to be the basis which Edmunds used to craft thier product. The attached pictures show the type of linkage Rudy used to operate his carburators.

Rudy asked me to post this information in hopes it will help you in crafting linkage for your application.

Roger Harmon

Thanks Ken,



I should have realized that the two-barrel throttles would operate front-to-back, instead of side-to-side. The Repro Twin H won't work in this case. Those carbs look like Rochesters; do you know what they are? I'm soliciting advice on carb sizing for my 262. It's a driver, not a racer. The linkage pictured looks to be a progressive set up. I guess Mr. Bennett ran his Jet on the street too. Thank you for the pictures.



R/ Roger.

super651

Roger,It is not progressive but a little elibarate,it needs to be simpler and if i can find it I did have one that useses the Hudson coil bracket boss as did the stock 2 barrell cross the center. and it was used to work the 2 JET Rochesters that you find on GM cars it can be found on 60s-70s-

They are everywhere but,I use the Pontiac ,Olds as they have the bigger bore and BP-Oil likes to see us using them as they use a little more Gass but,they will Light up any hudson 232-262-308.

We had this on a 232 for awhile with milled head,headers and thay thing would take a lots of honets on the take-off but then the BIG Cubes would take over on top end.

I will try to find the other one this week end.

The Rochersters 2-Jet are trouble free and jets are easy to change.

Hudsonly to ALL Rudy and the locals.

Many Thanks to Ken for posting the pictures and helping me sort some of this stuff out.

Roger Harmon

Rudy,

Thank you for the great info. I'm now watching e-bay for big bore 2-jet rochesters. Are the 500 cfm ones the same as the 1 11/16 bore? I'd love to see pictures of the linkage if you can find it; I could even help you wear it out if you like. Thanks again to you and Ken for your help.

R/ Roger.

Roger Harmon

Rudy,



Will these work? The base plate looks different.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250674299578&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123



R/ Roger.

super651

Roger Harmon wrote:

Rudy,



Will these work? The base plate looks different.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250674299578&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123



R/ Roger.

Roger, It looks like the larger ones,and i use the smaller ones. The ones i use have the same size flange as the Hudson 2-barrell has.

Rudy

super651

Roger, the 2-Jet carbs that fit the Edmons and the Gibson-Binks has a FLAT FLANGE that the gasket seals to just like the Hudson carbs has. The type that is on EBAY has the ported flange mount (not flat) and the studs are farther apart and will not fit, unless you inlarge the 4 holes. It is a Good carb with a little larger bores.

Hope this helps. Hudsonly to ALL Rudy

[Deleted User]

Could an adapter plate be used between the carb and manifold?? Bob