Help Identifying Hudson !

Unknown

I have recently purchased a new project! It's a Hudson, and I am not familiar with Hudsons at all!

It was sold to me as a 1925 Hudson Essex, but I have yet been able to confirm that it is. I have searched the serial Number. The tag on the firewall has "Patent in Canada 1926 - 1927". So I am assuming that it cannot be a 25?

The serial number is "567044"
Help! Thanks!

hudsontech

Serial number says 1925 (562016 to 672227). It is a Hudson. Essex serial numbers for 1925 ran 144377 to 337949.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN
http://hetclub.org/burr

Unknown

Thank you so much for the quick response. So do you have any idea as to why it would say "Patent in Canada 1926-1927". I was thinking that maybe that is when the patent would run out?
THX

hudsontech

I have no idea on the patent dates. Doubt it's the expiration of the patent. The only explanation I can come up with is that being as it may be Canadian it may be that the patent was issued in 1925 for the 1926-1927 model years and these were put on regardless.
On the other hand it may be that I'm off on the series - it may be a 2nd series (early). Under the series system Hudson used from the mid-20's to the early 30's the 2nd series 1925 models would become, usually on either Dec. 1 of the current year of 1 Jan of the next year a 1926 model. They put in changes when they changed series. Like VW later on.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

Geoff

1927 Essex serial numbers were from 500,000 to 706270. So your car would be a first series 1927. Do you have any pictures?

hudsontech

Geoff C., N.Z. wrote:

1927 Essex serial numbers were from 500,000 to 706270. So your car would be a first series 1927. Do you have any pictures?

Hate those later years. Most likely you're right Geoff - if it's an Essex. Would explain the 1926-1927 patent plate, now, wouldn't it.

Oh, well, can't get them all right. I was going by what he said - that he had a Hudson. Tho, he did say he had a Hudson Essex, didn't he.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

Unknown

I do have pics. Unfortunately the car has already been taken apart and put on a different frame. I have all the body parts. Is there any part that would tell you more, i.e. the grill has lovers that open on it? Thanks, Dave

ESSX28-1

Are the grill louvres vertical or horizontal & is the bottom apron separate or part of the grill?

Unknown

The lovers are horizontal, and the shourd and lovers are one piece, but nop apron attached.

Unknown

Louvers, not lovers...smiles

Unknown

So again, not being up on this car, is this a Hudson Essex or juat an Essex. Where does one find parts. i was told that the Model A parts will fit?

[Deleted User]

I could'nt find anything for my first Hudson back in 1998 till I joined the
H.E.T. club. Once you join the Hudson club and go to a few swap meets you
find a whole new world. Oh and the model A Ford has nothing in common with
anything Hudson built.
Roger

ESSX28-1

the grill description suggests a 1927 Essex

Unknown

Thank you for the feed back. So do I own a 1927 Essex or is it considered a Hudson Essex. Did Huson have any role in the manufacturing of the Essex?

Does anyone know where sheet metal for my newly aquired 1927 Essex can be located.
I what to replace with metal roof and floor pan. Help!

hudsontech

Canadian Hudson wrote:

Thank you for the feed back. So do I own a 1927 Essex or is it considered a Hudson Essex. Did Huson have any role in the manufacturing of the Essex?

Does anyone know where sheet metal for my newly aquired 1927 Essex can be located.
I what to replace with metal roof and floor pan. Help!

You own a 1927 Essex. Essex began in Dec 1918 and was a separate company within the Hudson corporate structure. Sort of like Chevy, Pontiac, Buck and Caddy in the GM structure. Hudson executives operated both companies.

This state of affairs ran until around 1927, 1928 when Essex, as a separate company was absorbed wholly into the Hudson corporate structure and became a division, in a manner of speaking, within Hudson, but not a separate company, if you can understand that.

Hudson was way ahead of Dodge -- remember the Dodge commercials, "Dodge - Different"??? Hudson was from the beginning "different". Just one example - in the step-down years (as best I can remember) the ignition and door keys were different - everybody used a hex-head key for ignition and round for doors. Not Hudson - they did it the other way around. This being different is what drives Hudson researchers up the proverbial wall.

The only years that the Essex name was hyphenated was in 1932 and 1933 when the Terraplane line came in and Essex went out. Those two years were Essex-Terraplane. However, in 1932, just to mess with things Hudson produced Essex, Essex-Terraplane and Terraplane models.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

Unknown

Thank you so much Alex! I have learned more in the last few days about my wonderful purchase than anyone, including the previous owner could tell me. I am so thankful to this site's members and please keep feeding me information; I’m always looking to learn more!

hudsontech

Watch ebay and pick up a copy of Butler's History of Hudson. Lot of good info between the covers.

If I remember right there's more on the Hudson/Essex corporate arrangement in Roy D. Chapin: The Man Behind the Hudson Motor Car Company. That's available thru amazon.com - I think the club store may have copies also.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

ESSX28-1

Canadian Hudson wrote:

Thank you for the feed back. So do I own a 1927 Essex or is it considered a Hudson Essex. Did Huson have any role in the manufacturing of the Essex?

Does anyone know where sheet metal for my newly aquired 1927 Essex can be located.
I what to replace with metal roof and floor pan. Help!

There is an active group of Canadian Essex owners. Gary Lynch [essexcanada@hotmail.com] would be a good person to contact.
If you join the HET Club you will get a membership roster with a Canadian section showing names addresses & cars. We are (a mainly a helpful bunch of) HET enthusiasts & you are likely to find someone near you with a similar car who will be able to advise on where to look.
If you are anywhere near Wetaskwin Alberta, then the Reynolds Auto Museum is a great place to see HET products (http://www.machinemuseum.net) They even have a Hudson on their home page!!

[Deleted User]

By all mean's join the H.E.T. the club magazine akone is worth the cost.
lots of ads in the back for parts and cars. Plus list's of expert's to ask advise from.
Roger