I introduce myself and ask for advice

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edited November -1 in HUDSON

Hello everyone! My name is Michele from Switzerland. I bought a 1950 Hudson Pacemaker 262, ... I ordered from Kanter, the new head gasket, but unfortunately it is very narrow and not good. it is possible that my car is fitted with a larger engine? Maybe built after 1951? Can anyone give me some advice?
Thanks and greetings from Switzerland! Michele

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  • Your car has the wide block 262 engine, 1951 up. The 1950 Pacemaker has the narrow block 232 engine. What is the serial number on the right front corner of the block, as this will tell me the year and car engine was in? Walt Mordenti
  • Thank you for your fast response.
    The serial number on the engine (262) is:
    7319618
  • hudsontech
    hudsontech Senior Contributor
    Yep, that appears to be a 262 head. Serial number, if you drop the 7, is for 1954 and would have been among the last produced (3126251-319720.

    If the 7 is what I think it is you may have a 262 head on a 308 (Model 7D) block. Entirely possible.


    Hudsonly,
    Alex Burr
  • I would also order a "BEST" head gasket from either Dale Cooper or Randy Maas. They know Hudsons better than Kanter.

    The BEST head gasket has superior sealing so will be better for your project.
  • Thank you all for your valuable information.
    I tried to contact Dale Cooper ... but does not have an email address ....
    The important thing for me was to understand that there was engine on my car ...
    Michele
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    edited February 2011
    Check out the information on "engine ID" thread dated 26 Jan 2011. Right now it is on page 4 but as time passes it will be on a higher numbered page.

    Thanks to Hudson308 posting engine ID by the block casting number under the distributor you can determine the month, day, and year the block was manufactured.

    This helped me. My block casting number was dated in 1955 but it had a 1952 V/N stamped on the engine. It was apparently a replacement engine block.

    Hope this helps. Lee O'Dell
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    edited February 2011
    Michele, thanks for contacting the Hudson forum. Look at the lower part of your engine block, on the left side. See if there is a second "lip" or ridge, running from front to rear, about 5cm above the bottom (oil pan) lip. This double lip is only on the Hornet engines, so that will tell you if it's a Hornet. And it's quite common for a Hornet engine to be equipped with a 262 head ... it increases the compression.

    Do you live in the "Bonjour" area of Switzerland, or the "Gruezi" area? Are you acquainted with any of the other Hudson owners there? If not, I can put you in touch with a couple of them ... one has a '53 Hornet sedan, the other a '33 Terraplane. E-mail me at pwald@comporium.net.
  • Thanks!
    I come from the "Italian Switzerland ".... In Italy I know the owner of a Commodore 6, 1949 ... In Switzerland, I know that there is another (green 4-door ).... I do not understand what are the "lips" that you mean ....
    Michele
  • Kdancy
    Kdancy Senior Contributor
    edited February 2011
    mods, please delete post, I don't see a way to do it.
  • Ol racer
    Ol racer Senior Contributor
    Hello,
    Dale Cooper does not have an email. His phone number is # 1 513 821 6200; Randy Maas has email maasfh@ntslink.net and Phone # 1 309 968 6157. Randy & Dale are the very best to contact for all your Hudson Motor Parts...
  • Unknown
    edited February 2011


    Hello and welcome.

    The RIDGE that Park refers to is shown in the attached picture. The 308 engine is the only engine of the 232, 262 and 308 Hudson flathead 6 engines with the reenforcement ridge.

    Cheers
  • Clutchguy
    Clutchguy Senior Contributor
    You need to make sure of what engine you have before you order the head gasket. A 262 gasket on a 308 makes the engine sound like a diesel. The gasket must match the bore size. CG
  • 54SuperWasp
    54SuperWasp Expert Adviser
    HI Michele and welcome to this forum. I have been here since a few months and found a lot of information provided by Hudson pros. Anything, and I mean anything you want to know about Hudson cars you will find here. Have fun! Ciao! Michel.
  • Excuse me: why you want to delete the post? Thanks
  • Kdancy
    Kdancy Senior Contributor
    Michele, you misunderstand. I want my post (answer to your question with pictures added) as there are better pictures added later by other members to this (your topic)that shows the 308 engine rib area. I did not want the topic deleted, only my post!!
    I hope this clears things up! (:
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    edited February 2011

    Regarding the '55 spare engines that were made to go into the '54 and earlier cars, here's how to identify one of these engines. The arrow points to the small raised "boss" just below and a little aft of the distributor. This is not present on the original '54 and earlier engines. If the '55 spare engine is set up to go in a '55-'56 car, this would be drilled out for a dipstick. For those engines intended for '54 and earlier cars, this boss is not drilled out; the boss at the rear is drilled out instead.
  • Thanks. This is a picture of the part .....
    I therefore believe that it is a newer engine ....
    Michele
  • Park_W
    Park_W Senior Contributor
    Michelle, check the photo now ... I added an arrow to show exactly the item of interest. Sorry I didn't describe it well earlier.
  • Unknown
    edited February 2011

    Thanks.
    No, I do not see a similar projection on my engine
  • Just look at the numbers casted into the block under the distributor. If it starts with 3 and has a total of 6 numbers, it's a 51 to 54 engine. If it starts with a 5 and has a total of 7 numbers, it'a a 55 or 56 engine. Walt.

  • The number you see in this picture: it starts with "3 "
    H34 - 310111 - CWC -2
    Michele
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