White walls? yes no???

[Deleted User]

I put on a set of old white walls and I'm not sure I'm sold on them. the ride is not great and the handling is marginal at best, what do you all think?
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Browniepetersen

I love the wide whites on the stepdowns. But, you have to go with the Mopar steel wheels and SBR wide whites to get the ride and safety.

[Deleted User]

Nice looking car, thanks for sharing. WWW radials have worked quite nicely for me. Great look of WWW, but the handling and safety of radials.

[Deleted User]

Ken U-Tx wrote:

How can the ride and handling be good on any tires when the suspension is so droopy that the car is riding on it's bump stops?

With the black wall radials it rides and handles very good, it has GM ZQ8 bumpstops and its not riding on them. The springs are cut in the front and it has blocks in the rear.

MikeWA

I've always loved whitewalls- in the 50's, they were the sign of an "upscale" car. Only the cheapies and the ones your grandpa drove had blackwalls. I wouldn't think of having a 50's car with blackwalls. I think its a shame they fell out of favor- but these days, they're more a symbol of a pimped ride, or a low rider.

onerare39

How about blackwalls with full size wheel covers on the front!

John

[Deleted User]

The white walls definately look cool.

TwinH

zombiescustoms wrote:

Ken U-Tx wrote:

How can the ride and handling be good on any tires when the suspension is so droopy that the car is riding on it's bump stops?

With the black wall radials it rides and handles very good, it has GM ZQ8 bumpstops and its not riding on them. The springs are cut in the front and it has blocks in the rear.

Personal preference for sure but make mine WWW radials. Thanks too for the tip on the
GM ZQ8 bumstops! I love the idea of new-tech urethane FOAM suspension stops.My 49 still has 1948 date coded Delco shocks and I have held off replacing them(front)
because the current best match(which I believe is a Corvette C1 replacement)has a
compressed length that is around an inch taller than the originals.I hate the idea of bottoming out the shock and have heard tales here of destroyed lower shock mounts.
I'm NOT saying that longer replacement shocks were the cause of the failed shock mounts but I do know my 49 sedan is not shy about bouncing off that lower bumpstop.
I'll be heading out to my local dealer to pick-up a pair (GM# 15956547)this week and play around configuring them to allow for the longer replacement shock.
THANKS, Zombiescustoms!


GM ZQ8 bump stop

[Deleted User]

I also use the Monroe sensa track shocks for a Chrysler cordoba, from the 70s on the front, they are about 3in shorter than the stockers and valved pretty good.

TwinH

Sorry to go off topic but I'm finding Monroe # 5829 at 7.13 in. compressed(about11/16" shorter than Hudson spec 7 3/4") and 10.75 in. extended(about 1 1/4" shorter than the Hudson spec 12") Think I'll give them a try.BTW,they were
listed for 80-83 Cordobas.

RL Chilton

The whitewalls look much better, but I ditto the SBR's.

Uncle Josh

I put a set of used radials on this and ran them to Pittsburg where I won the Albright award. Painted whitewalls with house paint. Great at high speed, terrible at low speed.

Sprang for a set of Goodyear Supercushions 4 1/4 WW from Lucas. Good at high speed, great at low speed. I'm much happier overall and they look more original.

[Deleted User]

Wide white wall tires . I have BF Goodrich tires 7:60-15 on my Hudsons. Tires have drawn many compliments through the years, as much as the car. Tried radials and didnt like the way the car felt.Changed toe in and everything. I have driven these cars for 56 years all over the country and have had no tire trouble. I guess as time goes on I dont put anything on my Hudsons or change things that wasnt a option in the year it was made.

chopperchuck

it's like 2 different cars,i like both but thats me :evil:

chopperchuck

Uncle Josh wrote:

I put a set of used radials on this and ran them to Pittsburg where I won the Albright award. Painted whitewalls with house paint. Great at high speed, terrible at low speed.

Sprang for a set of Goodyear Supercushions 4 1/4 WW from Lucas. Good at high speed, great at low speed. I'm much happier overall and they look more original.

uncle josh::that looks like the color my Hudson was..whats the color/color code?-chuck

[Deleted User]

TwinH wrote:

Sorry to go off topic but I'm finding Monroe # 5829 at 7.13 in. compressed(about11/16" shorter than Hudson spec 7 3/4") and 10.75 in. extended(about 1 1/4" shorter than the Hudson spec 12") Think I'll give them a try.BTW,they were
listed for 80-83 Cordobas.

That's them
I run the 5829s on the front and 5966 on the rear.

[Deleted User]

Uncle Josh wrote:

I put a set of used radials on this and ran them to Pittsburg where I won the Albright award. Painted whitewalls with house paint. Great at high speed, terrible at low speed.

Sprang for a set of Goodyear Supercushions 4 1/4 WW from Lucas. Good at high speed, great at low speed. I'm much happier overall and they look more original.

what size are your Goodyear Supercushions?

Aaron D. IL

I had on the widest white wall I could get in standard (not special order) radials and they were like 2" and looked great. I recently had to change them on my Pacemaker and was short of money so I just got same size radial in blackwalls. It just didn't look the same, makes the car look cheaper like it really is the base-model Hudson. Doesn't have that "POP" . By the 60's wide whitewalls were going out of style. in the '40's cars didn't have them because of shortages. IT's definately a '50's thing. I had WWW bias plys and hated how they rode but they were awsome in a radial.

[Deleted User]

Since the Albright Award is determined by a drawing I am not sure it is actually an award that someone "wins". Nevertheless, congratulations and hope the money was well spent.

Walt-LA

Brownie,

Which of the Mopar rims are you running? Are they 5 1/2 inches wide, and can they take the '51 stepdown hubcaps without modification? Seems all of the current manufacturers specify 5 1/2" rims for P215/75 R15's- which is what I'm using. Ride fine, but bulge with the std 5 in. rims.

Thanks, Walt La

hornet53

Honestly I kinda dig the blackwalls on your car. The flat paint and black wheels make it look a little tougher. The whites "class" it up just enough to look un-finished. I don't know what your plans are for the paint, but if you plan on keeping the flat, I would run the B-walls.

I run the whites on mine because; A) they came with the car when I bought it 11 years ago, the paint is light colored and kinda glossy, giving it that "finished a long time ago" look, and C) they were still good (retiring them this winter). Looking at options now for replacement, and you have inspired me to look into the Mopar rims and blackwall radials to run for a year or so. Just looks so damn mean like that.

BTW, how much did you drop the front when you cut the coils, and what size blocks you running out back?
Also, you have a part number for those bumpstops?

Yours seems a little lower than mine.

[Deleted User]

It has been lowered so long, I could not tell you, I think I cut a coil and a half off, the frame is about 4" off the ground with stock 7.10-15s on it. What size tires are you running on yours? My blackwalls are 225/70-15 and sit the car lower than with the 7.10s. I am running 3" blocks in the back.

And the car is painted, with hot rod flatz and will be that way for a long time.

hornet53

I'm running 7.10-15s also. Had some custom coils wound up with a 2.5" drop and 3" blocks. Should've increased the spring rate more than 10% when I had the springs made, but shorter/better bumpstops would help with that.

225/70-15's huh? I'll keep that in mind when I order the next set of tires. May as well go radial from here on out.

Thanks!

[Deleted User]

I am running the radials on mopar police wheels, I think they are 15x7.

segajeep

I'm not feelin' the green paint but with the other thread and it's topic, I don't think that's a concern anymore. I'm not a fan of black rims/black walls so the wide whites would break it up nicely with a black rim. Maybe some chrome lugs and bearing caps to keep wit the monotone theme of the car.