Which 2 bbl carbuterots on a '52 hornet? Pictures anyone?

JMed

Hello everyone,

I have a '52 hornet hollywood that needs complete restoration. My first task is to get it running but I need some help identifying the correct parts. I hope you are a little patient with me as I go through the restoration but I'm very excited about seeing this forgotten car back on the road.

The car has an Edmund 2 barrel intake manifold but the carburetors had been removed. I have the Carter WGD carburetors but I haven't seen a setup like this. The fuel line location appears to match the front carburetor. I looked at some on-line photos and the twin-h carburetors each have a linkage rod that goes across the engine. Although they are mostly single barrel carbs. This car only has one rod going across the engine in between both carbs.

The carburetors I have are both Carter WGD 118-68. The tag on one is 398 and the other is 7765.

Does this look right? Any thoughts, comments, or photos would be appreciated.

Jairo

dougson

I suspect you mena dual carb. manifold with two 2 barrel carbs. The carb. in the picture is a WGD, which was standard on the signle carb factory manifold. WGD carbs. were used on a number of engines back then, both 6s and V8s. The different tag numbers indicates that they have different applications and also differ in metering and jet specifications. Check the Carburetor Shop for correct application of the numbers.

JMed

Correct, the car is set-up for dual 2 barrel carbs. Do you know if these WGD carbs were used with the Edmund dual 2 barrel intake? Any details on how they should be metered? (I don't know if these carbs have metering rods or jets). I suppose I can take them to a carburetor shopw and ask them to make them identical, but what would be the correct setting?

Thank you!

dougson

Aftermarket manifolds were designed to use any number of carb types. Yours was obviously set up for four-bolt carbs. If the throttle bores line up with the bores in the manifold then the carbs. are fine. I checked the Carb. Shop with your numbers and they are well out of the range used by Carter to identify WGD. To be certain that you have two identical WGDs, you may have to locate two cores with identical, traceable tags. That way you have two sets of identical (hopefully) components.

ski4life65

I think one of your carbs is probably a 776s (not 5), which are fairly common.

TOM-WA-

I HAVE A 776S CARB THAT NEEDS TO BE REBUILT..LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE INTERESTED

JMed

I think you are correct, it's very hard to read the old tag but it could be a 776s.

[Deleted User]

I would think the carb used would be related to the build of the motor. If it were just a stock 308 or 262 motor it wouldnt take as much gas as a 308 with radical cam and ported.
Roger

[Deleted User]

Walt here; The 776s is the standard carburetor used on all 1951 to 1953, Hornets and Super Wasp with just single 2 barrel carb. Twin H motors used 2 WA-1 968s and 1954 used 2 WA-1 2113s. These carbs need the correct metering rods and settings. Walt.

[Deleted User]

Walt He has a manifold with "Two" Two barrels on it . I was just saying not just any ole engine is going to take that much gas without choaking on it,
Roger

JMed

Correct, the car has an Edmund intake manifold with "two" two barrel carbs on it.

It also has dual exaust. The front suspension has an additional bar going from the spring to the frame, maybe holding the car up during high speed cornering? And the rear suspension has traction bars.

With that in mind it is very possible the motor was modified for higher performance. Would two 776s carbs do the trick?

Jairo.

[Deleted User]

Not knowing the innards of the motor build I would go with minimal jetting on the carbs to start. You could allways juice it up later if you wanted by rejetting them. With that setup on it the thing is not going to fall within any sort of "Normal" Hudson specs anyway,
Roger

dougson

One thing you could do, and is what I do in my cars, is to hook up an air/fuel monitor when the engine is assembled. This would require welding a O2 sensor bung onto one the exhaust pipes near the manifold. Install the 02 sensor and gauge. It will tell you if you are running too rich or too lean or your mixture is "stoichiometric" (correct ratio 02/fuel). I know there is a lot of opinion about this, and humidity, temperature and altitude affect fuel combustion, but I have found it to be a good indicator of engine efficiency. My 308 engine at 150' with twin-H, Clifford header with duals, 7X flat top "long dwell" cam, aluminum head (8.3:1 CR), 7X valves, runs slightly rich in normal weather conditions.