Pay Pal Fraud Selling Hudson

[Deleted User]

Its never good when you have to sell your Hudson. Wanted to thank anyone that help me alone the way with parts or advise. I'm forced to sell her so I advertised to sell her long story short a guy named Mike Bowen contacted me we agreed on price . He wanted to pay with Pay Pal . Im glad I read a thread earlier advising  never to work outside of my PP account ,like from a Pay Pal e- mail. 
Buyer wanted to add money for me to pay for shipping . I'm glad I checked my account because there wasn't any money nor any notification either. But the e mails stated money transferred .
These e mails are fraud but look like the real deal. Check google  search and documented from  a over seas fraud operation. If I would have clinked on any link I would be in trouble .
It's true when you go against nature and forced to sell your Hudson nothing good can come from it.

Nevada Hudson

Turn him in!

[Deleted User]

Well I'm glad that worked out for you but I would advise not to use Paypal if you don't need to. For a transaction like selling your car you could use Western Union. They don't gouge like PayPal. Once the cash is sent it's over. You either have your money or you don't. Also remember that Paypal is an escrow service not a bank. If there is a dispute the seller almost always gets the short end especially on ebay. My 2 cents.

RonS

So I take that the whole transaction is a fraud? Do people send a car away without a agreed cash balance credited to their account? Sounds like mailing out an item before the check clears . What was the intent here? Did the "buyer Bowen" think step down was going to "mail" out the Hudson before the cash was verified in stepdowns PP account? How long ago has Bowen said he sent the email? Sounds awfully adolescent to me.

Val

Just glad that things worked out ok for you. It could have been much worse.

[Deleted User]

The sad thing is these guys must get away with those scam's on occasion or they wouldn't keep doing it,
Roger :-w

[Deleted User]

This reminds me a lot of back in the seventies when I was selling my 1931 Essex. I had read an article in Motor Trend by a lawyer who was a car collector. He told of a scam that involved people buying a car at the end of the day on Friday with a personal check and needing the car right away. The seller would get stuck with a bad check and no way to find the car or those who did it to him. A guy came to look at my Essex and he did things almost exactly as the article described. It was a Friday and he finally made up his mind just before five o'clock, but wanted the car immediately for a show. I'm thankful I had read that article, and I refused to take his check or let him have the car. He was angry but I've never regretted holding off on that sale for it smelled like yesterday's fish.

Geoff Blake

hudsontech

I knew a fellow in Maine ran into that "late Friday Sales" gimmick. Had a 1969 Camaro, as I recall, that he was selling for $3500. Gal shows up on a Thursday afternoon, looks at the car and says she want's it but she's got to go to the bank to get the money. Gives him a $500 deposit.
Calls Friday morning, says she's having trouble getting the approval for the loan but pretty sure she'll have it shortly. Shows up with a check for $3000 about 4:30 Friday afternoon. She sweetly asks if he'll make out the bill of sale for $1000 to save on sales tax,which he does - that's quite common, at least in Maine - I've done it myself. Monday morning, you got it. Check bounces. Mail comes in, note from the gal saying she messed up her checking account so she'll be in shortly with a check for $500 (remember that bill of sale for $1000??) to finish paying off the $1000. Now he's stuck - how the hell can he prove she was supposed to pay $3500 for the car. Good buddy tells him to bit the bullet and call the cops - and his lawyer. Long story short cops arrest the gal and it goes before a judge. Turns out the judge is a car nut and knows full well a 69 Cammy is worth more than a grand. She got 18 months for fraud, he lost his state license to sell cars (put the car shop in his wifes name,) and he got his Camaro back.

[Deleted User]

I'm selling my 53 Hollywood and believe it or not Mike Bowen sent me a text about the car wanting to buy it but only with Paypal. I saved all my text messages from him and it was an obvious scam from the beginning. I simply told him I would only take cashiers check, wire transfer, cash or personal check. But the car & title don't leave my possession until funds are cleared. After he realized I wouldn't do paypal he left me alone. He also referred to himself as Sgt. Mike.

hudsontech

I can't even begin to express my disgust with what appears to be a scam artist calling himself "Sgt." A real Sargent has more honor than that.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN
USCG Ret.

[Deleted User]

This "Sgt" Mike Bowen wouldn't be from Alabama would he?

[Deleted User]

Yes, his spelling was just enough off to realize he wasn't American most likely

hudsontech

Ok, I apologize to Sgt. Mike - It is now obvious that his site or his personal data were jacked.
I do not apologize to whoever is using Mike's ID.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

[Deleted User]

I have this happen to me with cars I sell on craigslist. Every time I post a car for sale I get texts saying the same thing: guy is in the military, wants to buy my car as a surprise for his dad, wants me to remove the ad, he'll pay extra and wants it shipped. Blah blah blah. The scammer is so bad that he sends the SAME text from 3-4 different phone numbers. I always text him back telling him to f**k off and get a job. That's usually the end of it until my next craigslist post.
There is only one way to sell your car: to a person who shows up in person, with cash! Anyone who can't do those two things should be rejected (unless you're selling a $100,000 car, I don't expect someone to be walking around with that type of jack!)

[Deleted User]

How about the guy wanting to know how much you'll knock off the price BEFORE he sees it. Or how about the one who absolutely will be there at the appointed time only to discover that he dosen't show up. I learned long ago to plan like they weren't coming.

[Deleted User]

Guys I clearly dogded a bullet here. I'm surprise I permitted this guy to go as far as I did. Nothing lost thank God. These guys are from over seas and scan all our public mail looking for a scam.. Makes me sick.
Don't know which poison is worst selling my Hudson of the sum bags and scammers.