'39 model 92 convertible brougham

oldhudsons
oldhudsons Senior Contributor
edited June 2013 in HUDSON
image just put into eBay. I owned this extremely rare '39 conv. 6 - 8 years ago when lived up in Prescott, got it in "Bay Area" of no. Calif. Had it a while, "sorted it out", then sold it to a "wheeler-dealer" in L.A. from whom current owner must have gotten it.
If any of you interested & have any questions be glad to answer them.

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  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    edited June 2013
    Looks like you (or someone) "sorted it out" pretty nicely!

    Here is the web address of the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-92-SUPER-6-92-1939-Hudson-model-92-convertible-brougham-extremly-rare-pre-world-war-2-/200935060470?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2ec8a9b3f6&vxp=mtr

    Did "sorting it out" include putting a new top on it, and if so, were you able to find a ready-made one somewhere, or did you just pay a local guy to sew one up from scratch? A couple of the large commercial top companies I've been talking to, say that they have patterns to make the tops, and I prefer the idea of paying less than $500 for a premium canvas top (and then installing it myself, which is not a huge deal).
  • didusay39
    didusay39 Expert Adviser
    I like to think I pretty much brought this Hudson back from the condiction in the image above to her current state and enjoyed just about every year of the experience.However after all things accomplished I do wish I had know of and bought the Hudson from oldhudsons befor it had gone to the "wheeler-dealer".
  • PaulButler
    PaulButler Administrator
    I'm officially in love ....
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    It used to be that the "wheelers" were all into "flipping" Duesenbergs and '57 Chevvies, back in the day when no one wanted Hudsons, which were presumed to be worthless. (Which left the field pretty much to enthusiasts like us.) For example, back in '71 when I was looking for a nice old mid-thirties convertible to fix up (of ANY make), Fords and Chevy ragtops of that era were in high demand, thus commanding greatly inflated prices. So I chose a Hudson cv. which I could get, complete, for a mere $500. (The only other guy who wanted my car, had a '37 coupe and wanted the convertible for parts!).

    Sadly, those days are gone.
  • PAULARGETYPE
    PAULARGETYPE Senior Contributor
    edited June 2013
    SO THIS IS WHAT MY 39 ROADSTER STARTED OUT AS LIKE SOME THING LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT I HAVE TO GET SOME NEW PHOTOS FROM DOWN IN THE GARAGE AND SHOW OFF SOME OF MY OLD GIRLS NEW LOOKS LOL

    AHHH AND JON I ONLY PAID A MERE $500 2 YEARS AGO FOR MY CAR TOO
  • hudsonsplasher1
    hudsonsplasher1 Senior Contributor
    I remember when it was on the market when Pete had it. Green seemed to be a popular color in 39.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    Jon - the "sorting it out" consisted of taking everything out, seeing what I had and what I didn't have. I was stunned to get the original conv. brougham sidecurtains & rear window as still had shards of the original top as you can see in photo I attached (I have others).
    I sold it as had a '46-7 212 engine so they'd "stuffed" the firewall + I had no clue as to where I could find a good engine to replace it & was deep into total & expensive '33 T8 conv. restoration.
    didusay - yes, sorry too!
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    imageanother photo of it still on my car trailer
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Pete (or anyone): did the '39's have a zip-out rear curtain (with glass window) that flopped DOWN into the back seat area when unzipped? Or was it top-"hinged" and flipped UP and was secured to canvas straps running fore and aft between the steel top bows?

    The reason I ask this is that many of the late thirties Hudson cv's have chrome twist fasteners in the center portion of the rear deck, where one would expect to find a tacking strip.

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    If the curtain hinged down, you'd think it would be tacked along the bottom (where it met the deck). But the twist fasteners lead one to believe that they held the bottom of the curtain and, when twisted, allowed that to swing forward and up, securing to the top irons to provide fresh-air ventilation through the car.

    Anyone know for sure whether this pertains to the '39? To the '38? To the /37?
  • didusay39
    didusay39 Expert Adviser
    Jon B : I can't say one way or the other on possible positions of the rear window but what a great idea for ventilation through the car. When I got the Hudson the back window frame had been cut out from the folding top canvas. I can study the car and what is left of the top and let you know if come across any clues that might guide to a possible answer to your question on this 1939. Also I'm not sure if you are aware that there is a storage pocket (see image on my flickr page) on the back side of the rear seat that is big enought for the rear window to fit inside with the side rear quarter windows. Just a thought but maybe one could have removed the rear window completly and stored it away behind the seat. Hope I helped.
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    I'm aware that there is a storage pocket for the convertible broughams but not the convertible coupes. I believe the '37-39 convertible bodies are all identical from the cowl back, except of course the rear fenders and trunk pans would be different for the short wheelbase cars.

    My 1937 cv has a tacking strip running along the rear deck (where it would meet the bottom of the canvas top) on two sides, but not at the middle portion. Which is very strange. If the rear curtain were fixed, or were "hinged" down, you would simply expect the tacking strip to go all the way across. You'd tack the bottom edge of the curtain down, then you could unzip it along the top & two sides and swing it down, like most vintage convertibles. So why do they delete the tacking strip in the center and have (instead) two fittings for a removable piece? Anyway, that's always perplexed me.

    But, I fear I have hijacked this thread, so I had better shut up!
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    I think that pocket is for storing the rear 1/4 window snap in's when removed not the conv. top window.
    Glad to see it's getting some bids! Let's pray some hot-rodder doesn't get it!
  • didusay39
    didusay39 Expert Adviser
    Kinda like watching your young one wade out into the world. Pray for the best... prepared for alternatives.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    amen brother, LOL
  • Val
    Val Member
    Oldhudsons, I second that. Amen and hope who ever gets her treats her with love.
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    right Val & looks like "did" has made a good start at resurrecting this extremely rare '39 conv.
  • I'm going to get it, pull the engine and put a Chevy 350 in it, drop it about 2", put some torque thrust wheels on it with low profile tires, a corvette dual exhaust & hydraulics.

    JUUUUUST KIDDING
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    nice to see it brought a good price, hope it's found a good home & it's restoration will be completed.
  • didusay39
    didusay39 Expert Adviser
    Appears oldhudson as though the next chapter in her story is going to be new home where she will be sharing a portion of a climate controled environment, surrounded by classic brothers and sisters of many makes.
    Regards
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    ....behind velour ropes with "DO NOT TOUCH" signs nearby? (Oh well, it's better than being turned into a ratrod I guess. But many of us old geezers remember a time when these cars were actively being driven to Hudson meets.)
  • oldhudsons
    oldhudsons Senior Contributor
    did - I agree with Jon as far as them deserving to be driven & shown BUT also pleased to know it's getting a good home (I had e-mails from one party asking me questions about it, don't know if they were the buyers or not).
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