Oil sump screen torn

parkerm

Folks,

I removed the oil pan and dipper tray from the 1940 and I need to clean about 1/4 inch of goo from the sump. I noticed that the sump screen is torn loose at the top corner. I do not see anyway to fix this; can anyone advise me on this?

One other thing; it appears that oil has seeped out around the edge possibly for a long time because the pan is coated with oily crud.
The pan and dipper tray have the thin paper type gaskets; is there another thicker gasket that I could use that might close any tiny gaps? I am thinking that maybe a 75 year old pan might have been warped or slightly bent over time and that is why the oil seeped out.
When I re-install the pan should I re-tighten the bolts in a particular pattern to ensure the pan is drawn tight evenly around the perimeter?

Thanks,

Marvin

RichardD

Believe you could match existing mesh with the steel mesh at McMaster-Carr; then form a piece and solder or braze in place.

>>>  http://www.mcmaster.com/#steel-mesh/=y8ogdr

Geoff

Best way of flattening sump flange is to use a piece of 1/2" steel plate to rest the flange on and work your way aroun d with a hammer.   Then use 5/16" hardened washers on the bolts instead of  spring washers.  These do not flatten  out to the same extent and seal the flange better.   ditto on Ken's advice on R.T.V. be ultra-careful.

broughsup

You can get a good quality gasket from Olsens Gaskets - it is thicker than the paper type.

Per

Marvin,

     A Hudson dealer in Rhode Island used to completely remove one part of this screen.  He said that in cold weather the oil would not pass through the screen quickly enough when the engine was cold, and damage to the bearings could result, especially if the oil level was somewhat lower than the full mark on the dipstick..  His experience came from the time before multi-weight oil was in common use, so it may not apply now.  Also I suppose that not many people use their cars in really cold weather now.

     This construction occurs in pre-stepdown engines back to 1934.  I am not familiar with 1933 or older engines.

Per

parkerm

Thanks guys, I will follow your instructions and I am sure I will have good results.
Ken and Geoff I understand completely how to straighten and flatten the sump flange; makes perfect sense.
Broughsup, thanks for the info for Olsens Gaskets, I will contact them.
Per I don't think I want to remove any of the screen, but thanks for chiming in.

I'm going to Das Awkscht Fescht in Macungie, PA. this weekend and I'm looking forward to seeing many nice old cars.

Best Regards,

Marvin