Looking for this HET member

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Hi, I know there's a fellow from my town, Dillsburg, PA, who shows up for our car show each year that has the Hudson pictured below, and maybe more. I'm new here and I am joining the club, but I was hoping to reach out to this fellow asap since he is local. Does anyone know him from the HET club and events in PA and MD? I'm hoping he is willing to give some advice since I am new to this car. I'm learning fast and not always doing the right things (forgot I was dealing with a 6volt car and rushed to jump it with a 12volt jump pack this morning, sucha dummy). I think I may need another generator because of this mishap :-(



Anyway if someone here knows this car and has some contact info could you please email it to me? I think his first name might be Art or something like that:







Thanks!



Herb Mooney

Dillsburg, PA

dave s

I sent you an email on member.

Unknown

Welcome and BTW, you're not a dummy. I've jumped many 6 volt cars with a 12v booster pack with no adverse effects. Once your car starts, get the cables (from booster or other car) off quick. What year is you car?



Dave

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Only two caveats for jumping with a 12 volt system to the Hudson 6 volt system. First make SURE you have the polarity right and two turn off all accessories like lights etc when jumping from a 12 . Works great though.

Jon B

Herb, if you're new to Hudsoning you might want to scoot down to the 43rd annual "Doc's" Apple Blossom Meet (May 12-14) in Front Royal. Just down Rte. 15 to Rte. 340, then down to Front Royal.



http://www.hudsonclub.org/docs.htm

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Dave53-7C wrote:

Welcome and BTW, you're not a dummy. I've jumped many 6 volt cars with a 12v booster pack with no adverse effects. Once your car starts, get the cables (from booster or other car) off quick. What year is you car?



Dave

Dave,



Thanks for the BTW. I was sure I wasn't the only one to do this. This all stated when I noticed after I jump started the car (about 1-2 mins) the car just shut down. I didn't think I damaged anything, but once I started the car and then pull the positive cable off the battery the car shuts down as if the generator wasn't working. I looked at the voltage regulator and it looked un-burned or damaged so I put a meter on the generator and it's only reading 3.5 volts out to the regulator. I am figuring a new/rebuilt generator is in order unless someone here can tell me what I may have done. Until I drained the battery (testing/fixing the lights and left them on all night) the car would idle as long as I wanted. Now it shuts down agter about 1-2 minutes. I'm putting the battery on charge over night but the low voltage on the generator has me worried.



I have a 1951 Super-Six:







Thanks again,



Herb Mooney

Dillsburg, PA

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Jon B wrote:

Herb, if you're new to Hudsoning you might want to scoot down to the 43rd annual "Doc's" Apple Blossom Meet (May 12-14) in Front Royal. Just down Rte. 15 to Rte. 340, then down to Front Royal.



http://www.hudsonclub.org/docs.htm

I would love to make this show, especially since it's so close, but the family (Stacey (wife), Mya (daughter) and I) are headed to Disney World this week and won't be back till Sat night, and if I miss Mother's day brunch on Sunday, Stacey will own the Hudson along with all my other belongings :-O



I am planning to make the Orphan Car event unless there's another show before that close enough to go to. I'm also going to join both the Chesapeake and PA Dutch chapters of the HET club. I hope to meet more folks through the club.



See you all there and maybe at a National in a year or two.



Herb Mooney

Dillsburg, PA

Unknown

Hey Herb,



Depending on engine speed and where you took your measurements, the reading may be accurate. Remember, the job of the regulator is to modulate generator output based on demands. A simple test would be to start the car and turn on the headlights. If they progressively dim as the car idles, it would appear that the something is amiss. If you are unsure of your generator, pop it out and take it to a shop that can test it for you. BTW, cool car!



Dave

Jon B

Gosh, Herb, what could be nicer than a delightful Mother's Day Brunch in Front Royal? That way, you get a scenic drive, enjoy the cars til noon, then take your wife out to a nice restaurant. And maybe take a scenic cruise down the Skyline Drive afterwards! (Hey, I don't give up easily...)



By the way, on your electrical problem, are you running with good ground straps (2) and an authentic 6-volt battery cable, and are all terminals clean?

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Dave53-7C wrote:

Hey Herb,



Depending on engine speed and where you took your measurements, the reading may be accurate. Remember, the job of the regulator is to modulate generator output based on demands. A simple test would be to start the car and turn on the headlights. If they progressively dim as the car idles, it would appear that the something is amiss. If you are unsure of your generator, pop it out and take it to a shop that can test it for you. BTW, cool car!



Dave

Thanks Dave! I was actually taking the reading from the 2 wires on the generator, both gave the same reading and engine RPM didn't seem to affect it. I am guessing (auto electrical is not my area of expertise) that either the generator is bad or it could still be the flux-capacitor...I mean voltage regulator.



The weird thing is I was checking over my overheating problem in the morning and the car would sit and idle as long as I wanted it to, but I went out to get a new volt meter at Radio shack and came back and jumped the motor with the jump pack again. I was checking voltage for the headlights and that's when the car decided to turn off. The only new item I introduced was the second jump from the 12 volt jump pack. Would the generator or regulator be affected/damaged first by a 12 volt jump, or should I assume both would get fried?



My plan is to take the generator out and have it tested Monday anyway.



Thanks for all the advice,



Herb

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Jon B wrote:

Gosh, Herb, what could be nicer than a delightful Mother's Day Brunch in Front Royal? That way, you get a scenic drive, enjoy the cars til noon, then take your wife out to a nice restaurant. And maybe take a scenic cruise down the Skyline Drive afterwards! (Hey, I don't give up easily...)



By the way, on your electrical problem, are you running with good ground straps (2) and an authentic 6-volt battery cable, and are all terminals clean?

It's not just my wife I have to keep happy, but the Mother-In-Law as well. We are all going to Brunch at the Mother In Laws favorite resturant, so suggesting that we run on down to VA after Brunch might not go over so well, and unfortunately my new to me Hudson won't be ready to make that trip since I won't have next week to work on it.



I'll prep the wife for the show next year if it's on Mother's day again, sorry.



Also, since I had the car running just fine earlier in the day without the shutting off issue I don't think the straps, cable, and terminals are the cause, but I will double check tomorrow morning for sure, thanks.



Herb

nick s

go ahead and take the flux-capacitor with you as well. the shop should be able to test it also. the shop that rebuilds my generators will test the regulator and adjust it to my generator running on his fixture. of course not all shops have the necessary 1.21 jigawatts available for propper testing

Unknown

Hi Herb,



Do you have a shop manual? If not, you should get one and read the electrical section. This may be of help to you. Or, do a Google search for how to test a generator. I hear that Sherman and Mr. Peabody may be able to help with the "Flux Capacitor." As far as the car dying, have you checked the fuel filter at the pump? When those begin to clog, the car will die constantly. Again, I have never had a problem doing a 12 volt jump on a 6 volt car. In talking with a long distance car hauler (35 years in business) he said the same. Just be quick about what you do and don't make a habit of doing 12v jumps.



Good luck with the "Mr. Fusion" unit,



Dave

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Dave53-7C wrote:

Hi Herb,



Do you have a shop manual? If not, you should get one and read the electrical section. This may be of help to you. Or, do a Google search for how to test a generator. I hear that Sherman and Mr. Peabody may be able to help with the "Flux Capacitor." As far as the car dying, have you checked the fuel filter at the pump? When those begin to clog, the car will die constantly. Again, I have never had a problem doing a 12 volt jump on a 6 volt car. In talking with a long distance car hauler (35 years in business) he said the same. Just be quick about what you do and don't make a habit of doing 12v jumps.



Good luck with the "Mr. Fusion" unit,



Dave

Dave,



See I knew I did the right thing buying a Hudson :-) You guys are awesome. I post a question and I can come back in an hour or two and I have an answer, sometimes almost imediately. I may even learn a few things here.



I did notice a bunch of dirt and rust in the fuel filter at one point when the gas level got low, but looks clean now that the tak is full. I bet you may be on to something. I should have thought of this, I may have been way off track with the generator, THANKS!!!

hornet53

I've always jumped my 6V hornet with the 12V jumpers by placing the positive lead on the starter side of the starter solenoid, turn the key on, and touch the ground lead to my ground terminal. It isolates the 12V to the starter only and I've heard that these starters are OK with the extra power. Make sure the ignition is on, or it will just crank.

Unknown

Hornet 53 is right on jump starting with the 12 volt. Be sure to have trans. in neutral.

Also check the screen under the 3/4 inch plug at the carb inlet.