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ON MY "53" HORNET THE BELL SHAPE HOUSING ON THE STARTER AT THE WORKING END BROKE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ONE FOR SALE OR KNOW WHERE I CAN GET ONE? ALSO "SECOND QUESTION" WHAT WOULD CAUSE IT TO BRAKE?

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Might break from age or the starter was not bolted up even so there was stress on the housing.

nick s

are you running 12 volt on a 6 volt starter? if so, the answer to why it broke is simple. Sure it spin twice as fast and give a quick start but it hits the flywheel at that higher velocity resulting in an increased impact force to both the ring gear and the bendix. if you are running 6v or 12v with 12v windings it could be a flawed casting or just 60 hears of fatigue damage.

HornetSpecial

I just bought a 49 Commodore 6 Coupe. The guy I got it from says it is missing teeth on ring gear. So I will have to fix that. I don't have car yet , but do have photos. I noticed that someone put 12 volt alternator on it . Do you think that is why teeth got broke off. What should one do to starter to fix??

Thanks, Paul

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From the term "bell shaped housing" I assume you mean for an automatic, if so, I have one you can have for the cost of shipping. Don't know how much that will be, I will just ship it and you can send me a check for what it shows. I think mine is off a 51, but i would not think that would matter. Mine is also from a 262 Six cylinder.

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alexa wrote:

From the term "bell shaped housing" I assume you mean for an automatic, if so, I have one you can have for the cost of shipping. Don't know how much that will be, I will just ship it and you can send me a check for what it shows. I think mine is off a 51, but i would not think that would matter. Mine is also from a 262 Six cylinder.

I GUESS I DIDN'T PUT ALL THE INFO., YES IT IS HYDRA. TRANS, IT HAS ALSO BEEN CHANGED OVER TO 12 VOLT. AND ITS A 308. YES I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE PART YOU HAVE. MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS; HETEARL00@MSN.COM {DROP THE HET}. THE 00 IS A NUMBER. AND I WILL SEND YOU MY ADDRESS.

super651

Dummy.

When the starter is assembled properly it will not brake the rear bearing housing,even using a 12-volt batt.

The center bearing support is shimmed on the front side with thrust washers. If the bendix gear is ever thrusted into the rear bearing housing with 12-v then it will brake.

Move the bendex out all the way and make sure it does not hit the housing.

I have been using 12-v system on 6-volt starter for 15 years now but before i shimmed it we broke 3 housings.

Thanks to all. Rudy

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super651 wrote:

Dummy.

When the starter is assembled properly it will not brake the rear bearing housing,even using a 12-volt batt.

The center bearing support is shimmed on the front side with thrust washers. If the bendix gear is ever thrusted into the rear bearing housing with 12-v then it will brake.

Move the bendex out all the way and make sure it does not hit the housing.

I have been using 12-v system on 6-volt starter for 15 years now but before i shimmed it we broke 3 housings.

Thanks to all. Rudy

RUDY, THANK YOU, THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD.

nick s

Rudy, thanks for the tip. after reading it, I pulled my spare starter, one of the "good" used variety from the trunk. I found that the bendix could indeed contact the housing due to an excess .050" to .100" of end play in the shaft.

obviously (even though the consequences are not as prominent) this is just as important for those of us running 6v as well. perhaps spreading the word could save quite a few starter castings.

thanks again

super651

Hope this will make it to the W.T.N. A local Gent that worked for the local X Hudson dealer that is still talking Hudsons today told us of this FIX years back.

You can find the FIBER WASHERS in local hardware stores or the starter rebuild shops of many thickness. ( they seem to work well on 6-V but when on 12-V the gear will hit the bearing housing to hard ) Test the starter with 12-V before installing,

Thanks to all. Rudy

( Walt,could you talk about this in our SUPER H.E.T. ? )

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sent you an email, let me know if you don't get it

super651

Alexa

Have not recieved as of yet.

Thanks Rudy