51 Hornet Coupe On Ebay
THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING ........
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Nice car but why is there no Hornet hood ornament?0
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Good Point... What is that thing ?????????????????????????0
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ALso 55 Air Cleaners and 12 volt0
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Nice car and a 51 aswell. It will be interesting with the timing of the movie. I'd still wait a bit to sell and also list it in some other publications. "Cars" was the number #1 Hit again this weekend for a two weekend total of $114 million. Beat out three brand new movies. Just a "flash in the pan" movie.... yeah right.0
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harry54 wrote:Good Point... What is that thing ?????????????????????????
Actually, Harry, it's from a 51 Super 6 , I just thought it was kind of weird though. Nice in all respects but the Hornet hood ornament is unique to Hornets. So this is a little dissapointing.0 -
I didn't realize that.. They had a differednt Hood ornament for the Super and Hornet. I learned something today.. Thanks0
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Yep late air cleaners, still can see the generator and looks like a 12v battery. Nice looking car.0
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not picking or anything.....resistor block on firewall, looks like the starter solenoid is upside down, funky looking voltage regulator, wrong radiator, horns not wired up, hodgepodge of different wiring with solderless crimp ons, center fuel line feed to carbs, incorrect interior, dash and accessories do not appear to have the "marbled look" like the steering wheel, I guess it was neglected since its restoration in/around 96..... Don't get me wrong, I'd take it........0
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The Car Has A 55/56 Intake And Probably The Same Engine. My Poor Eyes Seem To Think It Is The Original Hornet Hood Ornament, Minus The Gold Triangle. Bill Albright0
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BIll, Do you think that the engine is a 55 or 56 ? Doen't that mean that it would have hydralic lifters. The 51 would have had the solid lifter 308 , Correct ?0
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harry54 wrote:BIll, Do you think that the engine is a 55 or 56 ? Doen't that mean that it would have hydralic lifters. The 51 would have had the solid lifter 308 , Correct ?
56 only for hydraulic lifters. Actually, in my mind, that would be a plus...
the wiring is horrible on that... :eek: :eek: :eek:
and I do think that Bill is right, the hood ornament is only missing the triangle.0 -
The rust question was answered in a squirrelly way - "In Scottsdale, there is no rust". True, to a point, but if you notice in the pics the decidedly NOT Arizona house, the Sunoco gas station (NOT in AZ!!!) and the period Michigan front tag. The car is more than likely from that area, I would imagine, yes??? Who knows how long the car has been in Arizona. The seller doesn't seem to want to be up front about the car's known history, IMO.
Let's see how he answers my question.0 -
I assume the Dual range has a one more gear (second gear) like drive, second and first? Vs just drive and first?0
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I've got a 308 engine with serial # 221418. It's painted red like a 54 but can someone confirm the year and possibly model? Thanks0
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nhp1127 wrote:I assume the Dual range has a one more gear (second gear) like drive, second and first? Vs just drive and first?
The dual range has the same no of gears (4) as the single range. Both single and dual have the same gear ratios. The difference comes in with the 3.07 rear end used with the dual range. The purpose of the dual range (in DR 3) is to allow you to limit the transmission to the first three gears for around town driving... which is of some value with the higher rear end, especially if there are hills and/or you want smoother mid-range acceleration. The single range came with a 3.58 ratio rear end, which is great in town (even in fourth gear), but as anyone who drives one knows, it gets a little busy on the road.
The other distinguishing feature is that while the single range kicks down into third gear for passing, it does so under heavy throttle pressure. The dual range will shift down at about half throttle, again said to make it better in hilly country.
The single range, and the dual in Dr 4 both tend to shift into fourth gear pretty fast... again making the easier shift down appealing.
Walt-LA0 -
I think Bill's right. It looks like a '51 Hornet hood ornament without the triangle. Looks a little strange just hanging out there. Nice car, any bets it reaches 20K? As said above, I would inspect the car carefully before laying that kind of cash out...0
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nhp1127 wrote:I assume the Dual range has a one more gear (second gear) like drive, second and first? Vs just drive and first?
both are 4 speed autos
the single has one drive range 1 st thru 4th
the dual has two drive ranges 1st thru 3rd and 1st thru 4th
each also has a "lo" (2nd and 1st) selection as well as neutral and reverse
the b-w auto used in some 54's had a "park" position where the hydramatic's had the park feature incorporated into the reverse selection0 -
Correct on all points Pat! Thankfully my donor shell/frame has been sitting in an Arizona wrecking yard since 1985 and it has minimal surface rust on it. My original car look great in the pics until you removed the fenders and, oopss, all that rot!66patrick66 wrote:The rust question was answered in a squirrelly way - "In Scottsdale, there is no rust". True, to a point, but if you notice in the pics the decidedly NOT Arizona house, the Sunoco gas station (NOT in AZ!!!) and the period Michigan front tag. The car is more than likely from that area, I would imagine, yes??? Who knows how long the car has been in Arizona. The seller doesn't seem to want to be up front about the car's known history, IMO.
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That is a very nice looking engine compartment... and engine!0
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7XPacemaker wrote:not picking or anything.....resistor block on firewall, looks like the starter solenoid is upside down, funky looking voltage regulator, wrong radiator, horns not wired up, hodgepodge of different wiring with solderless crimp ons, center fuel line feed to carbs, incorrect interior, dash and accessories do not appear to have the "marbled look" like the steering wheel, I guess it was neglected since its restoration in/around 96..... Don't get me wrong, I'd take it........
Hi---The marbled look of the dash instruments I believe, is only applicable to the 52s.---Cliff Minard.0 -
Walt-LA wrote:The dual range has the same no of gears (4) as the single range. Both single and dual have the same gear ratios. The difference comes in with the 3.07 rear end used with the dual range. The purpose of the dual range (in DR 3) is to allow you to limit the transmission to the first three gears for around town driving... which is of some value with the higher rear end, especially if there are hills and/or you want smoother mid-range acceleration. The single range came with a 3.58 ratio rear end, which is great in town (even in fourth gear), but as anyone who drives one knows, it gets a little busy on the road.
The other distinguishing feature is that while the single range kicks down into third gear for passing, it does so under heavy throttle pressure. The dual range will shift down at about half throttle, again said to make it better in hilly country.
The single range, and the dual in Dr 4 both tend to shift into fourth gear pretty fast... again making the easier shift down appealing.
Walt-LA
Dual range hydra is nice - but it wasn't offered on Hornets in 1951. 1952 up.
It was my understanding that the Single Range was, in effect, a 3-speed (L-2-3 and R tranny; dual range was L-2-3-4, 4th being a sort of overdrive. 3rd was described to me, at one time, as the gear to use if you had two worlds coming together and you were in the middle. I had, for a short time, a 1953 Hornet - and 3 was the gear to get out of trouble with - definitely a screamer in the 56 Pontiac I had at one time.
But as i get older the old memory doesn't run on all cylinders like it used to.
Hudsonly,
Alex B0 -
hudson8 wrote:Hi---The marbled look of the dash instruments I believe, is only applicable to the 52s.---Cliff Minard.
My 1951 sedan that I am restoring was originally marbled. Apparently that wasn't too big of a hit in its day, as I don't seem to see many of them. I also have no idea what year they stopped doing that scheme. Maybe my sedan is a late 51? I should probably explain that I am talking about the dash and the other trim accesories, not the clock face, etc.
C.J.0 -
hudsontech wrote:Dual range hydra is nice - but it wasn't offered on Hornets in 1951. 1952 up.
It was my understanding that the Single Range was, in effect, a 3-speed (L-2-3 and R tranny; dual range was L-2-3-4, 4th being a sort of overdrive. 3rd was described to me, at one time, as the gear to use if you had two worlds coming together and you were in the middle. I had, for a short time, a 1953 Hornet - and 3 was the gear to get out of trouble with - definitely a screamer in the 56 Pontiac I had at one time.
But as i get older the old memory doesn't run on all cylinders like it used to.
Hudsonly,
Alex B
Alex,
The single range is indeed a four speed as is the dual. The difference is in the points mentioned above. Have driven a single range off and on since '55, and the only thing that I don't like about it is that with my P225 tires, the engine turns close to 2700 rpm at freeway speed.
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Gus Souza says the gear ratios in first, second, third and fourth are the same in both transmissions. Final drive (4th) is 1.00. No overdrive in either. I did not ask about reverse. This came up when I was considering changing the rear end in my '51 to 3.07, and was some what worried about it being too tall. But with few hills here in south LA, I will probably do so.
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Both single and dual range hydramatics are 4 speeds. I have two 52 coupes (Hornet and Wasp) that are early production and they have original engines and single range hydramatics (and the early style rears). I think the later one has a 145XXX production #. The other thing I noticed that when we disassembled several 51 and 52 hornets that the hydramatics were from the previous year on the GM tag ('H50 on the 51's and 'H51 on the 52's) GM may have used up stock from the previous year when they sold to the independents or the cars we disassmbled were just early production for their model year.0
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hudsondad wrote:Both single and dual range hydramatics are 4 speeds. I have two 52 coupes (Hornet and Wasp) that are early production and they have original engines and single range hydramatics (and the early style rears). I think the later one has a 145XXX production #. The other thing I noticed that when we disassembled several 51 and 52 hornets that the hydramatics were from the previous year on the GM tag ('H50 on the 51's and 'H51 on the 52's) GM may have used up stock from the previous year when they sold to the independents or the cars we disassmbled were just early production for their model year.
My '51 has an H-50 in it. As far as can determine it was probably assembled in April- SN 7A 35XXX. I understand that some '51's have the H-51 single range. Believe it may use a different (and much improved) rear seal. H-50 is leather.
Walt-LA.0 -
Yup my 51 has the H51 in it and mine was a September car.0
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Thought that this was a interesting Q@A from the ebay listing.
Q: how about a trade for a 1946 chevy panel, has a 350 b&m blower, t-400, camaro clip, camaro rear, and i will throw in a 1968 chevy ss 396 4 spd posi el camino
Jun-19-06
A: Sorry, I need space!!!!0 -
Translation - "I want money"harry54 wrote:Thought that this was a interesting Q@A from the ebay listing.
Q: how about a trade for a 1946 chevy panel, has a 350 b&m blower, t-400, camaro clip, camaro rear, and i will throw in a 1968 chevy ss 396 4 spd posi el camino
Jun-19-06
A: Sorry, I need space!!!!0 -
Yup, this guy is a car dealer not a collector.....0
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Bid 25,000.0
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