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No offense to any corn huskers, but I could not bear the drive to Nebraska. Where is it next year?????0
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It might not have started yet !0
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I Wasn't Up For The Drive But Would Have Went But They Moved The Date From Late July To Mid Aug. Next Year The National Meet Will Be In Auburn Ind. July 21 To July 260
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PAULARGETYPE wrote:I Wasn't Up For The Drive But Would Have Went But They Moved The Date From Late July To Mid Aug. Next Year The National Meet Will Be In Auburn Ind. July 21 To July 26
Why not September even,and get away from the heat and vacationer traffic. I'm not I'd take retired yet and would love to hold a few days of vacation for a midwest, cool September meet.0 -
Come on guys, it won't be that bad next year here in Indiana...
late July should be in the lower 90's with about 85% humidity.
Not like that killer "DRY" heat like in the southwest but a nice
refreshing "WET" humid heat, kinda like being in a boiling pot
of water! Heat index may touch 101-104 in the shade.:eek:
Been here in Indiana since 1968 and it would not surprise me
if its in the 90's one minute and snowing the next. At least we
don't get that nasty 40mph breeze to cool things off when you
least expect it.
Maybe we can see a mild F3 or F4 tornado and some mild flash
flooding to control the heat!:D
Makes me sweat just thinking about it. It would be nice to drop
100lbs and get down to a thin 340lbs to better handle the heat
around here!:)
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Dennis in NY wrote:No offense to any corn huskers, but I could not bear the drive to Nebraska. Where is it next year?????
In your back yard Dennis - Auburn, Indianna.
Auburn, IN Mon, July 23 - Sat, July 28 2007
48th National Meet-Auburn, Indiana
Host Hotels: LaQuinta, Super 8 and Auburn Inn. Theme-Lucky seven’s.
Meetings will be at the LaQuinta. Car display between Super 8 and Auburn Inn, flea market on grass between. Hosted By The Southern Indiana Chapter
2008 will also be in your back yard - Marlborough, MA - details.
Marlboro, MA Mon, July 21 - Sat, July 26 2008 --
49th National Meet-Marlboro, Massachusetts
Host Hotel-Best Western-Room Rate $80. Hosted By The New England Chapter
Contact: Carl Weber 183 West Street Attleboro, MA 02760-1148 Phone (508) 695-6592 Email HETHudson654@aol.com (Drop the HET).
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr0 -
I just got home from the nationals and from a newcomers stand point , that is looking for parts, well I could have gone to the local junk yard and found just about the same quality. I was looking for a pair of doors , the small piece of stainless on the vent, a good trunk lid, and a pair of sliders for the back window. all the parts are for a 47 coupe. there was nothing to speak of for the feature year of the nationals. what a dissapointment. If you are going to feature the 47 for the show , then feature it. Don't let a new person think that a feature year would lead to parts that one would need. I also tried to find a person of ranking to help me, go about putting a ad in the triangle and didn't do any better at that than finding parts. Yes I know I can put a ad my self in the trianle and I will but I thougt maybe I could have done it then and there at the nationals. So the weather was and is not the problem . the nationals need to be able to line up venors, car owners, that have the extra good parts and are willing to part with them so another car can and will be fininshed to someday bring to a national event. My drive wasn't that bad. 6 plus hours, but the guys that came from the west coast,they had the same feelings about the quailty of the swap meet as I did " Whats the sense of going ,looking hard for parts you need and all you find is another mans junk. I hope someone takes alittle stock in this and maybe works on it for the better of the H,E.T. club.0
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bumberw wrote:I just got home from the nationals and from a newcomers stand point , that is looking for parts, well I could have gone to the local junk yard and found just about the same quality. I was looking for a pair of doors , the small piece of stainless on the vent, a good trunk lid, and a pair of sliders for the back window. all the parts are for a 47 coupe. there was nothing to speak of for the feature year of the nationals. what a dissapointment. If you are going to feature the 47 for the show , then feature it. Don't let a new person think that a feature year would lead to parts that one would need. I also tried to find a person of ranking to help me, go about putting a ad in the triangle and didn't do any better at that than finding parts. Yes I know I can put a ad my self in the trianle and I will but I thougt maybe I could have done it then and there at the nationals. So the weather was and is not the problem . the nationals need to be able to line up venors, car owners, that have the extra good parts and are willing to part with them so another car can and will be fininshed to someday bring to a national event. My drive wasn't that bad. 6 plus hours, but the guys that came from the west coast,they had the same feelings about the quailty of the swap meet as I did " Whats the sense of going ,looking hard for parts you need and all you find is another mans junk. I hope someone takes alittle stock in this and maybe works on it for the better of the H,E.T. club.
I just copied your post - realizing that there are two sides to every story and we have yours - and passed it along to one of the organizers of the 2008 National meet. We can't do anything, after the fact, and we certainly can't beat vendors into bringing parts to sell - but you have made us aware there might be a problem, and probably has been over the years, so we can at least make some sort of effort to at least try to make things a bit better at our National in 2008. One does have to realize that as each year passes by parts get scarcer and scarcer - there weren't that many to start with!!!
I'm sure our WTN editor, Sam Jackson, was at the national and someone should have steered you to him. This is something I will keep in mind for later.
Thanks for posting your concerns.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Editor, Nor' by NorEast - New England Chapter0 -
I think you need to remember that a lot of the big parts vendors are on either coast or the upper midwest and trying to haul a load of parts to a National meet in Nebraska may be just too far. Also, some of the main parts guys are getting up there in years and a long trip like this with a big truck or trailer is not in the cards any longer. It has been a number of years since I went to a National meet but the ones I did attend were in PA, OH, and NJ and each one had quite a few vendors show up with trailers and truck loads of stuff. However as Alex mentioned as time goes on parts do get scarcer and the older cars will be the hardest to find parts for.0
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Some interesting points made on parts. It reminds me of the problem with the Pomona Swap meet here in So Cal. It is so huge that it takes hours to walk thru and finding a specific part is like finding a needle in a haystack. How do you find a Hudson part? Solution would be for the vendors to complete a simple online form of what general make and model parts they have. Also list the vendors space number so someone looking for Hudson parts can find them. A buyer could go online prior to the meet and see who listed any Hudson parts and what space number they are.
Perhaps HET could eventually have an "official" online format in which members could list their parts forsale or wanted. The ads would automatically drop off after X number of days.
Dan, get on this ASAP! LOL0 -
To bumberw, in reference to the scarcity of parts at this year's National, I would only say this: there are "pockets" of intense Hudson activity around the country, and there are areas where you don't find many Hudsonites grouped together. When we move Nationals around the country (so everyone gets a chance to have one in their backyard) we encounter this reality.
When you hold a meet that is not in a center of Hudson activity, you rely on vendors from farther-out areas to haul their wares to your meet. If you're within maybe a 500-mile radius of a lot of H-E-T members, this is no problem. But when you're not, then you rely on vendors to drive hundreds and hundreds of miles, and with gasoline up around the $3 level that is not as easily done as it was in the past. There ain't much you're going to do to encourage folks to drive a truckload of stuff that kind of distance, aside of write them a check for the gas, or guarantee they'll sell everything they're hauling!
So, we simply have to resign ourselves to the fact that, when meets are held in some parts of the country we are going to have more vendors, and in other parts, fewer. But what the heck! There are other reasons to go to a National: to experience a new and different part of the country and (most importantly) to see our Hudson friends. No matter where an H-E-T meet is held, it's an adventure and this year is no different. If the parts aren't there, we hope for better next year, and in the meantime we rely on the WTN, ebay, Hemmings, and word of mouth!0 -
I think it all has to do with Location, Location, Location....
last nationals we went to was Pittsburgh, in 2004. Wow, what a parts haul. We were able to find tons of parts for our stepdown years. I found parts that I didn't even know I needed. The only holding point for us was that we didn't have enough room to haul anymore stuff home. (not sure if we ran out of money, but it was a blast!)
I attribute a lot to that Pittsburgh bunch, who put a lot of effort into the meet. I find that I cannot say enough about them. Truly, in my mind, this single national meet will be a benchmark to judge all other meets I ever go to from here on out. I cannot think of a single complaint, maybe the amount of money I spent, but that's my problem :cool:
The east coast, and the west coast are hot points for hudson activity, anywhere else, well, it's a bit tougher to find stuff.
We do real well at Doc's meet too.... although this year was a bit light, we still managed to pick up another twin h set-up (I think it's becomming a pre-requisite to attend that meet for us) and I got a real nice steering wheel from Wayne, for my 50, a decent WA-1, and some other misc stuff.
The local meet (in Carlisle, PA, sunday after Fall Hershey) is really good for us. It always seems to deliver, and has done so for the past many years. I like to think that we have probably added a wing to Frank Dhulhy's (spelling...) house.... with all of the chrome me and hudsondad purchased over the years.... :eek:
So, I don't think it is so much the Nationals in general, it might very well be the location, and even a little bit of the gas prices too....
Also, unless you call some folks ahead, it's usually hit or miss whether you're going to find the parts you are looking for all of the time.0 -
nhp1127 wrote:\
Perhaps HET could eventually have an "official" online format in which members could list their parts forsale or wanted. The ads would automatically drop off after X number of days.
Dan, get on this ASAP! LOL
and this is a great idea...
we could post here, I guess for sale, or wanted to buy stuff....
I know a couple of us have sold parts, and bought parts from each other here, already....0 -
Yes you are probably right in saying "to far for the big parts and age does play a factor in when and what a person is capable of during. I was on the grounds for a day and a half. People would respond to me if I was the first to ask or first to talk to someone. No one challenged me to see if I was a member, if I needed help,if I had a car ,and No I didn't sign in and that may have been part of my problem. I am a member of 3 years , I don't mean to down grade the club or any members, I guess I just felt like a outsider rather than a member. I would like to know if you really don't expect the big vendors to bring good parts to the nationals , then what expectations do you have of them, and how do guys like my self get the parts we need to finished a car. I go to alot of swap meets in my area and I will rarely see hudson parts on their tables. So when I go to the NATIONAL meet for Hudson one would expect to see parts. thanks for your patience.0
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bumberw wrote:Yes you are probably right in saying "to far for the big parts and age does play a factor in when and what a person is capable of during. I was on the grounds for a day and a half. People would respond to me if I was the first to ask or first to talk to someone. No one challenged me to see if I was a member, if I needed help,if I had a car ,and No I didn't sign in and that may have been part of my problem. I am a member of 3 years , I don't mean to down grade the club or any members, I guess I just felt like a outsider rather than a member. I would like to know if you really don't expect the big vendors to bring good parts to the nationals , then what expectations do you have of them, and how do guys like my self get the parts we need to finished a car. I go to alot of swap meets in my area and I will rarely see hudson parts on their tables. So when I go to the NATIONAL meet for Hudson one would expect to see parts. thanks for your patience.
I do not know the poster, but I feel a need to put in my two cents. Over the years there have been many folks who dedicated their time and monies to making sure they attended the HET national meets and brought great quantities of parts long distances. These parts though rare were very often repacked and put back into the vehicle which brought them there. Why, because those who attended were not interested in paying fair value. Over the 30+ years of my membership and attendance, those younger fellows have turned into old fellas or have passed on. Most of the larger HET parts vendors are over 80 or passed on. The parts collections are being consolidated and some, not all, have resorted to selling via EBay of other means. I know of three vendors who are not traveling anymore and have all of thier Hudson parts for sale. Why, cost of gas, lack of profit and age.
When meets are held where the club members are concentrated they tend to bring together more parts and of course more support for putting on the meet.
I would say one thing about the parts needed for the 47 coupe... one of the sponsoring families were the FALKS. The Falks have thousands of Hudson parts. Ron has a restored 47C8 Coupe... so it is sad you did not ask someone about parts for your coupe... I am sure the Falks would have been a good starting point.
We should face the facts... the last Hudson was manufactured in 1957. The NOS and good used parts are fewer and fewer. Those who have NOS parts are around and it takes some investigation to find those vendors. As far as swaps like Pomona and Pate or San Diego, Portland, Hershey or Carlisle... Wear a tag on your person... I WANT TO BUY HUDSON PARTS.... it works... a fellow sold me a complete convertible top assembly he did not have displayed ... it was in his truck... just because I was wearing my sign.
Keep looking and check with RON Falk...
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I'LL PUT IN MY 2 CENTS WITH HAVING BEEN THE NATIONAL MEET CHAIRMAN FOR THE 2004 NATIONAL MEET IN PITTSBURGH WE WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO TRY AND GET PARTS VENDERS TO COME TO THE MEET I KNOW I MADE REVSERVATIONS MY SELF PERSONALY FOR THEM SO THEY HAD JUST WHAT THEY WANTED AND NEEDED WE ALSO HAD SOME THINGS IN OUR FAVOR
I think it all has to do with
Location,
Location,
Location.... WAS STATED BUY HUDSON KID HE'S RIGHT IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE NATIONAL IN ALOT OF OUT OF THE WAY SPOTS BUT DON'T THINK YOUR GOING TO GET LARGE CROWDS OF PARTS VENDERS I'VE BEEN TO MANY NATIONAL MEET WITH ALOT OF PARTS THE BEST WAY TO FIND PARTS IS TO GO OUT AND MEET THE GUYS WITH THE PARTS AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEM WITH THEM LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR GUYS LIKE BILL ALBRIGHT CA., KEN AMMAN MI.,FRANK DLUHY NY., BOB KISHNER PA., CARL WEBER MA.,DAVE KOSTANSEK OHIO,JAMES LEE FL.,GLEN JOHNSON UT.,AL SAFFRAHN AZ., AND GUYS WHO ARE REMAKE STUFF LIKE DANNY SPRING AT KGAP CA.,DALE COOPER OHIO,THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE GUYS I HOPE ME DROPING THERE NAMES HELP YOU FIND WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR AND I WISH YOU LUCK
I KNOW I'M THE 55,56,57 GO TO GUY ON PARTS I AS MOST THE GUYS WHO I LISTED GO OUT OF THERE WAY TO HELP YOU FIND YOUR NEEDS
I HAVE MET THESE GUYS OVER THE YEARS WHO HAVE PARTS AND I CONTACT WHEN I HAVE PARTS NEEDS YOUR NOT GOING TO FIND THE KIND OF HUDSON PARTS YOUR LOOKING FOR AT YOUR BIG CAR BIG VENDER SHOWS LIKE CARSILE
AND SOME TIMES YOU HAVE TO GRAB THE BULL BY THE HORNS AND HAVE SOME THING MADE YOUR SELF I KNOW BABY' WOULD HAVE NEVER GOT DONE AND AND HAVE TURNED OUT THE WAY SHE DID WITH OUT CREATIVE THINKING
I'M A PAST NATIONAL DIRECTOR AND DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING NATIONAL MEETS IN PLACE WERE YOU WILL NOT THINK THERE WILL BE BIG TURN OUT OF CARS AND PARTS BUT THATS JUST ME0 -
To Hudson lovers and lovers of all things old that roll,
Part of the fun of dragging a old vehicle home is inventorying what you have,what's missing, what you can fix, and what you need to hunt. Then the challenge begins,phone calls,old car publications,as mentioned tell folks what you're after, swap meets,regional meets, and most of all, put your smile on, stick your right hand of frienship out and make a friend. To have friends,you must be willing to be one and be friendly. People nowadays are starving for some one to talk to and they're waiting for you to start it. So take your grouchy face off and smile, your at a Hudson meet,other than Heaven, what could be better.It still gives me goose bumps when I stumble across that piece I've looked for a long time. It's sometimes disappointing when a project is finished and your very happy about it, but sad because the hunt is over and what am I gonna do now? Go drag another one home. Don't find the specific part you want? Keep huntin, it's part of the fun of bringing something back to life that should have been recycled into 4or5 Mopar neons. When anger takes over fun runs. Just me 20cents worth. Thanks for letting share and be a part(no pun).
Kim0 -
Thanks to all that responed to my letter about the Nationals, Ken, I do know how to find parts, I did ask the vendors. I've only been a member for a couple of years, but I'm 60 years of age and have been looking for parts and etc. at swap meets for years, so yes I do ask and talk. the other gentlemen that gave names and states, thats great but cities and numbers would do the trick. one of guys had a great idea of putting parts for sale on this forum. sounds great to me. Now days the cost of freight would probably be cheaper than driving. I really didn't mean to stir the pot when I wrote to note, but being someone fairly new, going to the nationals was big deal thinking thats the place for parts. thanks Bumberw0
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nhp1127 wrote:Some interesting points made on parts. It reminds me of the problem with the Pomona Swap meet here in So Cal. It is so huge that it takes hours to walk thru and finding a specific part is like finding a needle in a haystack. How do you find a Hudson part? Solution would be for the vendors to complete a simple online form of what general make and model parts they have. Also list the vendors space number so someone looking for Hudson parts can find them. A buyer could go online prior to the meet and see who listed any Hudson parts and what space number they are.
Perhaps HET could eventually have an "official" online format in which members could list their parts forsale or wanted. The ads would automatically drop off after X number of days.
Dan, get on this ASAP! LOL
You are right, Pomona is HUGE! I don't think that I have ever completed walking the entire swapmeet. Have you had any luck finding Hudson parts there?
Terry0 -
The last and best national we attended was Pittsburgh in 2004 and as hudsonkid stated it was terrific. Not only was the show great, but We had some tough items on our parts lists. I think we found just about everything and then some. Hudsonkid's Tahoe was stuffed and the next piece of sheetmetal was going to go on roof carrier. I may make it to Indiana in 2007 but definitely Massachusetts in 2008. Hudson Parts are getting rare at Carlisle and I haven't found much at Hershey lately. The local at Carlisle and Docs at Front Royal are both better. I can't wait til they have the meet in Pittsburgh again. That group set the standard!0
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bumberw wrote:Yes you are probably right in saying "to far for the big parts and age does play a factor in when and what a person is capable of during. I was on the grounds for a day and a half. People would respond to me if I was the first to ask or first to talk to someone. No one challenged me to see if I was a member, if I needed help,if I had a car ,and No I didn't sign in and that may have been part of my problem. I am a member of 3 years , I don't mean to down grade the club or any members, I guess I just felt like a outsider rather than a member. I would like to know if you really don't expect the big vendors to bring good parts to the nationals , then what expectations do you have of them, and how do guys like my self get the parts we need to finished a car. I go to alot of swap meets in my area and I will rarely see hudson parts on their tables. So when I go to the NATIONAL meet for Hudson one would expect to see parts. thanks for your patience.
Since you been in 3 years now how many regionals and local meets have you been too? You get out of the club what you put in Why not register? The 20 bucks that may be another story Just spent 6 nights at the national and had a great time catching up with people, having some mixed drinks and laughing every nite Didn't expect much out this national but there was surprised by the quality of pot metal parts and sheet metal Saw 4 (2 coupes) part cars all had solid frames Check your roster for names and numbers and call the vendor before he leaves of your needs I have alot of parts but if doesnt sell in 2 consecutive meets I ain t bringing0 -
bumberw wrote:...No I didn't sign in and that may have been part of my problem. I am a member of 3 years , I don't mean to down grade the club or any members, I guess I just felt like a outsider rather than a member...
If you don't sign in, you are an outsider. By wearing a badge, vendors and fellow club members know that you are there to participate, not a local just walking through to pass some time.
At the Western Regional, everyone was extremely friendly and helpful to me. If I wasn't wearing a badge I wouldn't have expected the same treatment.0 -
Li Am One Of The Older Guys Who Cannot Drive That Far Anymore. Sorry I Missed It. Big Question, See Who Can Answer First Who Won The Albright Award And How Many Entries Were There???? Thanks For Your Replies, Bill Albright0
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As far as the big meets go, the big thing to finding parts is to HUNT. You're going to look through 10,000 wrong parts before you find the right one, and that's part of the fun of this hobby. Then there are other times that you will literally stumble over something you need when you least expect it. I was at Hershey this past fall. I got so sick of seeing Packard and early Ford parts that I threatened to burn a friend's Model A to the ground when I got back home. I got there on Monday while vendors were still setting up. There were FEW vendors there that specifically stated or obviously had Hudson parts. However, there were MANY vendors who had Hudson stuff mixed in with their various parts. For my '29 H, I bought five solid wood spoke wheels for 5 dollars a piece. A fellow thought they were for a Dodge. Also, I found an original air cleaner mixed in with small block Chevy parts, which I didn't need and sold to a fellow club member. Also found a Marvel carburetor amongst Buick stuff; these things are as rare as a cute girl at a city bus stop. As a matter of fact, I found two such carburetors; the second was badly broken and seller wanted three times what I paid for the solid one. There were several different clutch discs and parts for various year Hudsons. I bought two sets of hood latches. Remember, this is for 1929! A couple of different gasket vendors had goodies that I bought. Also bought a Stewart-Warner vacuum tank, and an exterior door handle-- which was used only one year in production.
Now mind you, I had to look through literally 1000 carburetors before I found what I needed. And I don't want to talk about how many door handles and window rollers I pilfered through. But, there are some things out there if you're willing to hunt.
Best Regards,0
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