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Hi,

Would there be out there, by chance, a NOS headliner for a Hudson Wasp or Pacemaker two door sedan, years 1950 to '53?

Thanks,

Harry <glenvillerich@verizon.net>

Jon B

Acme Auto Headlining Company can help you. Acme Auto Headlining Co., 550 West 16th St., Long Beach, CA 90813; 800/288-6078

Aaron D. IL

A headliner for a Pacemaker or Wasp 2 or 4 door sedan would likely be physically the same. If you're ambitious it's not too hard to make one assuming your original one is in tact or present

Uncle Josh

Got my 49 Commadore one from Kanter, and I see J.C.Whitney also sells them.

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Hi Hudson Dave here . I just went through this with my 46. These people get their stuff from Acme. Fryer Auto Upholsery 1-888-205-4659, 15025 22nd Ave. NW, Maryville, WA 98271 Their windlacing was $2/yard cheaper, and the headliner was a good headliner. If you read Kantor's feedback on headliners, the first 10 or 15 were unhappy.

Hudson Dave @ www.FatWhiteWalls.com

hudsonguy

I'd suggest getting some material samples if possible. I recently replaced the headliner in my '49, even though it had been done in the late 80's when the interior was redone. Unfortunately, a red squirrel destroyed the new headliner while using this area as a food cache, and must've put a dozen holes in it!



Anyway, I guess my point is that when I bought a new headliner from Auto Interior Systems (thru ebay) and received it, it was obviously a much superior material to the one I had to replace, so it all worked out fine. There are significant differences in feel and quality between these two pieces, even though they both fit the car just fine.

Edwardjohnsr

When you installed the headliners, did you have to remove the rear window.? I have seen several differant opinions on this.

Ed

hudsonguy

I did remove the front and rear windows. I wanted to replace the rubber anyway. I did struggle getting the back window back in by myself, and finally called a glass installer, and the two of us popped it back in in less than a half hour. This is complicated by having the rear window stainless to install at the same time. If I didn't need to replace the rubber, I would suggest NOT removing the window. You'll probably have a little seam somewhere, but that's pretty minor.



The hardest part for me was finishing off the rear inside corners of the headliner. This took some time, and my results aren't exactly perfect either. But I guess for the first headliner I've ever installed, I'm pretty happy with the results.

kamzack

What's missing is difficult to give a verbal picture of. The headliner is pushed up into a channel like, light metaled pieced the has barbs in the channel, which hold the fabric. It's pointless,in my opinion, to try and install headliner until those are in hand, as there's nothing to stuff edges into.

Another concern that's been addressed above is glass removal or not. If the glass isn't removed there's nothing to permantly hold fabric in place,specially the front. A good interior shop will want the glass out,they use "U" shaped clips to hold the fabric that's wrapped around the outside edge or past where the U part of the weatherstrip goes. If this isn't done, no matter how or what kind of adhesive you use, it will come loose. In a manner of speaking the glass rubber is like the first bow. One of my endevors was working in a restoration shop doing Studebakers only and they would not put a headliner in without removing front and back glass, because it needs to be wrapped around the outside edges front and back.

As far as smoothing out ripples and or areas where it doesn't lay or hang flat, the best thing to do is use a steamer lightly and carefully. That allows the fabric to shrink and take the wrinkles, ripples and puckers out. You'll probably see one at good trim shop or rent one.

Think the quickest place to get the parts ya need is Bill Albright, Fontana,Ca. He'll know exactly what you're talking about.

Thanks for letting me share

Kim