29 H. Landau/Club Sedan For Sale...

Folks,



Take a peep at this: http://www.prewarcar.com/searchresults.asp?make=Hudson



They're calling it a '30 but it's obviously a '29. The main photo is taken

at a tricky angle and there's no useful info provided. I can't"see" the

other photos, for some reason, so I can't tell whether it's a Model R Landau

or a Model L Club Sedan. Do we know this car?



I have to say I'm underwhelmed by these dealers who put up such a

sophisticated front, ask lots of $$ and clearly haven't done even the most

basic research.



Having said that, the asking price of about US$35k for what looks like a

really nice car tends to put some other wild speculation about prices in

perspective, doesn't it?



Cheers.......... Peter R.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brett Rossiter" <hudsonhire@hyper.net.nz>

To: <HudsonSuperSix16-29@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:43 AM

Subject: [HSS] Re: Another wacky idea....?





>A nice - and not wacky - idea Lew, but I have another solution to

> the problem of vacuum tanks running dry when I forget to close the

> shut off valve. It's this. I've installed an electric fuel pump in

> the main fuel line just after the fuel tank but BEFORE the OEM

> vacuum tank. (It's quite easy to bolt a plate to the bottom of the

> chassis near the diff. and mount the pump on this). This pump is

> wired up to a spring loaded toggle switch hidden behind the dash

> board so that it will only operate when this switch is held down.

> Now, usually the vacuum tank operates like it should, and one would

> want it to, drawing petrol straight through this electric pump, and

> on to the carb. But, should the vacuum pump ever run dry, then I

> only have to depress this toggle switch for about a minute, the

> electric pump kicks-in, pumps petrol up to the vacuum tank and I'm

> motoring again.

>

> With this solution, one wouldn't have the continual draw of 2.5 amps

> the entire time the car is running which, as you say, might be a

> problem for folk like me who still run their cars on their original

> generators. Electric petrol pumps also have a wire mesh filter in

> them which is a good thing to have before a vacuum tank. These can

> be cleaned too and every year or so, I screw the filter out, rinse

> it in petrol and put it back. Better I think than totally replacing

> paper ones.

>

> Incidentally, I set this system up when I first restored the car

> because I then didn't have much faith in vacuum pumps and wanted an

> electric fuel pump in place as a back-up. That was some twenty years

> ago. Now, in that time the vacuum pump has never failed - it's only

> me that has done this when I forgotton to turn off the shut-off tap!

>

> Brett of Hudson Hire

>

>

> --- In HudsonSuperSix16-29@yahoogroups.com, Lew Phelps

> <hudsontownsedan@e...> wrote:

>>

>> Since Geoff Clark refitted my '29 Town Sedan with the OEM vacuum

>> tank, removing an electric fuel pump, the engine has been very

> happy,

>> except for one thing.

>>

>> If I leave the car parked and not running for an extended time

> (say,

>> 24 hours) the carb float isn't quite strong enough to shut off

> the

>> flow of gas from the vacuum tank, and thus eventually the

> reservoir

>> in the vacuum tank will drain out, and you're out of gas, at least

> as

>> far as the engine knows.

>>

>> Geoff and I installed a little shutoff valve on the line leading

> from

>> the gas tank to the carb, and that works fine -- when Cathy and I

>> remember to turn it off when we park the car in the garage. All

> too

>> often, we have come out to the car to find that the vacuum tank

> is

>> dry. I have become VERY adapt at refilling the tank without

> taking

>> the top off of it (details to follow, if anyone is interested).

>>

>> Anyway, after this happened again yesterday, I thought that a

> good

>> solution to the problem might be to locate and install a suitable

>> solenoid valve (that is, a shutoff valve that would automatically

>> shut off when you turn off the ignition, and open to let gas flow

>> when you turn the ignition switch on.

>>

>> It turns out that suitable valves ARE available, with 6-volt DC

>> coils, at a cost of about $35 each. The coil draws 16 volt-amps,

>> which means it draws 2.5 amps the entire time the car is

> running.

>> This might be a problem for anyone with an OEM generator and

>> additional electric load above and beyond the headlights, tail

>> lights, etc. I have converted to a higher-amperage generator

> (50s

>> era Hudson unit) so it's no problem for me.

>>

>> So the question is....anyone else interested in ordering one from

> the

>> online supplier? I will aggregate orders, and then reship to

> each

>> user if you wish.

>>

>> Alternatively, since this is a possibly wacky idea, maybe I

> should

>> order one valve, install it, and test drive to make sure it

> functions

>> as intended -- that is, that it actually stays in the "open"

> position

>> whenever the ignition is turned on.

>>

>> Let me know what you think.

>>

>> Lew

>>

>>

>> PS: if you happen to inadvertently drain your vacuum tank, I

> have

>> found that it's pretty easy to refill as follows:

>>

>> 1. Procure a funnel with a flexible plastic hose on the end. I

> use

>> one from Pep Boys that has a shutoff capability built into the

> funnel

>> itself, which is very nice, because you can pour a pint or so of

> gas

>> into it, position the tube, and THEN start the gas flow, at a

> very

>> controlled rate by only slightly opening the funnel valve..

>>

>> 2. procure an extra brass fitting, identical to the fitting that

>> attaches your gas feed line from the gas tank into the vacuum

> tank

>> (mine is a brass fitting for copper flare style coupling).

>>

>> 3. Remove the line leading from the tank where it connects to the

>> vacuum tank.

>>

>> 4. screw on the identical brass fitting, "bare,"

>>

>> 5. Fill the funnel with gas; presss-fit the plastic hose onto the

>> tapered end of the brass flare fitting, and open the valve on the

>> funnel. (The vacuum tank will take about a quart of gas, and it's

> a

>> good idea to pretty much fill it up with this process, to ensure

> that

>> there's enough gas to refill the carb, the line running to the

> carb,

>> and leave enough in the vacuum tank to allow it to function.)

>>

>> 6. Remove the extra fitting, replace the connection to the gas

> tank,

>> and start the car.

>>

>>

>> Lew

>>

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