replacement engine for 1938 Hudson 112 - 212 cu in

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  • lostmind
    lostmind Expert Adviser
    Jon is right , but Major might be to strong of a word. Been done many times.
    If you prepare ahead of time , I'd guess it could be done on one Saturday , if the engine is already out.
    I'm pretty sure there was a factory bulletin that showed a " Kit" to install the later engine.
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    edited September 2021
    Doctorvaux said:
    Hello John,
    I have a (later) Hudson 262 engine for sale.  I am in Hampshire, near Basingstoke, so not far away from you.  I have seen comments from other people on the forum in the past, that they have fitted such an engine to a 1938 car. I am not sure what this involves, but others on the forum could probably advise. It might be another option?
    The engine was running and driving in my car until about 6 months ago, when I swapped it for a 308 with twin H. The engine was a little fumey from the engine breather tube, so I would advise checking it over and planning on renewing rings at least.  On the positive side you would end up with a bit more power and an engine with pressure fed bearings as opposed to a splasher engine. The bearings are shells, as opposed to babbitt metal in the 212.  Please let me know if you are interested in the engine.
    Best regards, Brian.

    You'll have to cut the firewall to get a big 6 in there.  I would suspect the fiber timing gear.  They are available.
  • 7XPacemaker
    7XPacemaker Senior Contributor
    lostmind said:
    Jon is right , but Major might be to strong of a word. Been done many times.
    If you prepare ahead of time , I'd guess it could be done on one Saturday , if the engine is already out.
    I'm pretty sure there was a factory bulletin that showed a " Kit" to install the later engine.
    As I said in an earlier post in this thread, there was a TSB and a kit that could be ordered to install a late model splasher into an early model car. I have yet to find one of these "kits" to make a template from. I'm going to have to create my own when I put the later model 175 in my '39. I'm not quite sure why I am trying to keep one of the cheapest built Hudsons semi original. 
  • lostmind
    lostmind Expert Adviser
    If you know someone with a 1940 or later , you could make a cardboard template
    of the indent and have the location you need. I seem to remember some one
    used a heavy steel drain pan and welded it in after trimming it down.
    Paint hides a lot.
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    It's not a big deal, you can  cut out the required indentation and make up a curved plate and even pop rivet it in.  
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    It is not even clear he can find a "new" 212 at this point!
  • barrysweet52
    barrysweet52 Expert Adviser
    Im still curious what is wrong with the old motor. When we know people may have parts to rebuild it.
  • AndrewB55
    AndrewB55 Member
    Uncle Josh et al are spot on; find out what is wrong with the current engine and the timing gears, based on the limited information we have, are the first suspect. I have a pre-war 212 engine in a 1946 parts car, but to ship an unproven engine from distant Australia to Mother England is not economic or wise. You may find an engine rebuild kit from Ohio is the way to go.
  • JohnGooderham
    JohnGooderham Member
    Thanks for all your comments and advice.  I've now found and bought from a guy in Illinois a 212ci engine taken from a 1946 truck.  The engine has been drained of oil etc, and crated. I'm now having difficulty getting it shipped to the UK.
  • bob ward
    bob ward Senior Contributor
    For getting bulky items from the US to Australia I've used international freight consolidator shipito.com. Another similar business is myus.com, but whoever you use your engine will first need to be sent to their California/Florida/etc warehouse, from there it will go to the UK. Shipito and myus websites both have freight calculators available.
    Fedex/DHL etc gouge one time customers mercilessly. 

  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    From past experience, transatlantic shipping of heavy/bulky items is cripplingly expensive.
    If you can, see if you can locate a business in your area that regularly imports quantities of stuff from the US and see if you can work out a deal with them for a bit of space in one of their containers. Some business can be persuaded to do this and it'll save you from taking out a second mortgage to pay for shipping it on your own.
  • bob ward
    bob ward Senior Contributor
    Another thought along these lines is that there will be in UK shipping agents who specialise in the shipping of old US vehicles to the UK. They may well offer a parts shipping service.
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    That 262 keeps looking better and better!
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    Shoehorning a 262 into a pre-war Hudson 6 would be a mammoth job.
  • Old Fogey UK
    Old Fogey UK Expert Adviser
    bob ward said:
    Another thought along these lines is that there will be in UK shipping agents who specialise in the shipping of old US vehicles to the UK. They may well offer a parts shipping service.
    That's a good idea, Bob.
    But if John contacts me privately, I will warn him off one UK importer of old vehicles from the US who I would NOT use again.
     I don't want to name them on the Forum because it might be construed as defamation!

  • bob ward
    bob ward Senior Contributor
    Snap! I also have a US car importer on my list of people to avoid/warn people about.
  • JohnGooderham
    JohnGooderham Member
    Thanks guys for all these comments and advice.  I've now found a shipper who will do the job for £777, which is more than the price of the 212ci old engine, and which is not the cheapest quote.  I await news from the seller in Illinois that the crated engine has been collected from him, and is on the way.

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