Timing mark

JasonNC

I was given a Hudson engine which doesn't have the plate which contains the hole and the pointer that is used to line up with the timing mark.  Both engines in cars have this plate at the rear of the engine.  Is anyone familiar with this version of a 262 Hudson engine?  

JasonNC

It should read "Both engines in my other cars"... 

Toddh

The rear engine plate is where the transmission and bell housing attach to the engine.  It’s also where your starter mounts. Sounds like a previous owner left it off.  Is the flywheel on it?

JasonNC

JasonNC

Above is a picture of the engine in question.  I have since attached a flywheel and a bell housing and a starter.  The rear engine plates on my other engines (which have pointers) are built as part of the block.  I have since attached a flywheel, bell housing and a starter just so I could turn the engine.  It was at this point that I noticed the different rear engine plate.  

cheyenne7271

I love the pic on the wall, very cool. Someone in here will have a plate. I don’t have any loose at the moment. Some engines actually have a pointer that bolts in place above the starter. 

54coupe

The plate is a separate piece on all Hudson engines. Standard trans, and automatic trans are not the same, so you will have to make sure you get the one to match the transmission you are using.

railknight

Was 1952 the first year Hudson included the ignition timing pointer on stepdowns?

JasonNC

cheyenne7271 said:

I love the pic on the wall, very cool. Someone in here will have a plate. I don’t have any loose at the moment. Some engines actually have a pointer that bolts in place above the starter. 

A fellow Dogwood Chapter member painted that pic as well as a similar one.  Previously,  I had them on the wall in my house, but my wife made me take them out to the garage.  They reminded her too much of the old Hudson that her father let deteriorate in the woods behind his house.  54 Coupe is correct, on closer inspection the plates on my other two cars are separate from the block.  If that motor is worth repairing, I will eventually need a plate for a manual transmission, but that can wait for now.  

cheyenne7271

Railnight I think it was, my 51 Hornet never had one. 

RichardD

  FYI, Jason: This is what I did just because I could, not because I needed to. Might help. Get timing tape from JEGS I think for the damper diameter..  You have to have # 1 cylinder at the very top, then mark the pulley for the TDC.
Anyway, I had run out of anything to do !!! ha.........

JasonNC

Richard, this looks like something you would do.  So where did you attach the black pointer? (I assume that's what it is), that is, if you installed it on the car at all.  

RichardD

Pointer mounted on bolts holding timing chain cover plate. Believe I have cardboard pattern if you need. Easy to make with that engine like it is. Position of pointer along damper is secondary; You just put TDC on tape where it is pointing. Remember it has to be where a timing light can point at it. I just thought it would be easier than looking beside starter location !

blondwookie

I like the timing marker set up. I'd buy one from you

JasonNC

Richard if you still have the cardboard pattern for the pointer, I'd like a copy of that.  My address is in the register...

RichardD

Scan of my pointer pattern. 4-1/16" between punch marks for scale. 

terraplane8

You can fine tune it with a vacuum gauge once you've set the initial timing in terms of TDC.

JasonNC

Richard, I received the pattern today.  Thanks again.