Hudson Rear Speaker Kit

50C8DAN
50C8DAN Senior Contributor
edited November -1 in HUDSON
Anyone out there have the Hudson rear speaker kit installed? If so did they just put a speaker in the back shelf and disconnect the front speaker or did they use a fader potentiometer?

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  • Dan,



    Most Hudson cars that I've seen with a rear speaker appeared to have had them installed after the fact. Personally, I see no sense in installing a rear speaker and disconnecting the front one. I'd keep them both and use a pot.
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    I've been curious myself as to what a period correct "front/rear/both" switch would look like as installed when stepdowns were new. My '50 C6 came with the rear speaker with correct Hudson grill, but some previous owner apparently took the switch out (that's assuming they came with one originaly) when they went to the bother of replacing the '50 dashboard with one from a '48 or '49. (Why they switched dashes I'll never know).
  • I could be wrong, but I think that Hudson would have used a fader. Is the grill for your rear seat speaker the same as the one on the dash?
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    My rear grill looks the same as the one in front, though I haven't studied them closely. The reason I described the switch (again, if they had one) the way I did rather than using the word "fader" is that switches that I recall from the fifties had just the three positions and not the gradual blending that we now days describe as fading. A while back I pick up a neat GM factory switch that came from a '54 Olds. It had three push buttons, a beautiful chrome finish and, while it, too, mounted under the dash, it didn't look at all like the crummy, painted aluminum ones with the plastic knob that were common later in the fifties and the sixties.
  • 50C8DAN
    50C8DAN Senior Contributor
    Maybe this is a question for George Schmidt of the WTN fame. Too bad he does not have email. I may send him a letter to ask if he knows if no one else does.
  • James P. wrote:
    My rear grill looks the same as the one in front, though I haven't studied them closely. The reason I described the switch (again, if they had one) the way I did rather than using the word "fader" is that switches that I recall from the fifties had just the three positions and not the gradual blending that we now days describe as fading. A while back I pick up a neat GM factory switch that came from a '54 Olds. It had three push buttons, a beautiful chrome finish and, while it, too, mounted under the dash, it didn't look at all like the crummy, painted aluminum ones with the plastic knob that were common later in the fifties and the sixties.



    Although the GM switch was probably never found on a Hudson, I think that using a period appropriate part like that would look (and hopefully work) great.
  • The Hudson factory rear speaker kit came with everything needed to setup for what they called "simulated" stereo.

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  • 51hornet, you've done it again! :D Where oh where do you find this wonderful info?



    "The children will really go for it." Ya, hopefully in someone elses car!



    "and won't interfere with front seat conversation anymore." Means you can drown the little suckers out.
  • On my site I have loads of these things in my gallery. Look on page 3 of the gallery under Hudson Accessories. I love all the stuff Hudson used to offer so the dealers could install to make money. Those were the days.... did I mention I love all things Hudson..... :D great for the kids listening to that new fangled Rock & Roll music....its really keen....
  • MOM..DAD Are we there yet......Jimmy is pulling my hair and Karen spilled her malted all over the back seat.. I have to go potty...Thus the Fader was invernted......Full power on a good Rock' Roll station fade to rear seat.....

    What kids?



    Today we have car DVD's and MP3 Players and I pods and Lap To[ computers......Same result (no kid noise), but it now costs about $2K

    to shut the little beggers up!!
  • 51hornetA wrote:
    On my site I have loads of these things in my gallery. Look on page 3 of the gallery under Hudson Accessories. I love all the stuff Hudson used to offer so the dealers could install to make money. Those were the days.... did I mention I love all things Hudson..... :D great for the kids listening to that new fangled Rock & Roll music....its really keen....



    Thanks, I'll have to check your site more closely. I love all the wacky accessories too. Speaking of which, there are lots of accessories floating around, but the shop manual mentions none and many are without install instructions. Someone who may have instruction sheets (hint, hint, ;);) ) should put them on their Website. As far as the kids are concerned, I like the "won't interfere with front seat conversation" line. Ah, the fifities! Children are to be seen, not heard.
  • TOM B wrote:
    MOM..DAD Are we there yet......Jimmy is pulling my hair and Karen spilled her malted all over the back seat.. I have to go potty...Thus the Fader was invernted......Full power on a good Rock' Roll station fade to rear seat.....

    What kids?



    Today we have car DVD's and MP3 Players and I pods and Lap To[ computers......Same result (no kid noise), but it now costs about $2K

    to shut the little beggers up!!



    So funny and so true. I say give the little buggers each a magazine and turn up the rear speaker.
  • TOM B wrote:
    MOM..DAD Are we there yet......Jimmy is pulling my hair and Karen spilled her malted all over the back seat.. I have to go potty...Thus the Fader was invernted......Full power on a good Rock' Roll station fade to rear seat.....
    What kids?

    Today we have car DVD's and MP3 Players and I pods and Lap To[ computers......Same result (no kid noise), but it now costs about $2K
    to shut the little beggers up!!

    A DVD player is going in mine! Great for those long trips with a toddler/youngster. I think these are great since the kids now have to stay strapped in a car/booster seat. When I was a kid, we were all over the back seat, or law the back seat down in the station wagon and its as big as a small apartment!
  • essexcoupe3131
    essexcoupe3131 Senior Contributor
    Jay a DVD with head phones on as you wouldnt want to hear the wiggles playing LOL

    Great to hear from you the other day

    glad Iam not paying your phone bills

    Mike
  • jsrail wrote:
    A DVD player is going in mine! Great for those long trips with a toddler/youngster. I think these are great since the kids now have to stay strapped in a car/booster seat. When I was a kid, we were all over the back seat, or law the back seat down in the station wagon and its as big as a small apartment!



    On any trip over 30 miles, they kids will be hit in the head with a hammer and placed in the large trunk of my Pacemaker.
  • Whatever happened to the days when the parents talked to the kids, sang songs and showed them the sights as they drove along? Oh, right, that was the 50's.
  • essexcoupe3131 wrote:
    Jay a DVD with head phones on as you wouldnt want to hear the wiggles playing LOL
    Great to hear from you the other day
    glad Iam not paying your phone bills
    Mike

    LOL!!!! Your so right Mike! It was also great to talk with you and Linda. We have a great international phone service provider, so international calls are cheap, even to NZ. It only costs us about 7 cents a minute to call Tanya's mom in Russia! Geez! I think I pay 5 cents a minute to call long distance within AZ!

    When I was a kid growing up in the 60's, we played cards or read comic books in the back seat. Who wanted to talk with the folks?! lol Please, lets not return to the 50's! lol If we get anything like the Cleavers.....I'm gonna shoot myself!
  • Walt-LA
    Walt-LA Senior Contributor
    I installed an after market FM tuner in my '51 which was made by Radio Shack- probably in the '60's. It tunes FM stations in through one AM button, so that you do not lose the AM fx on the others. Also found a period gizmo called a Stere-O-Matic Channelizer which is supposed to produce "stero like sound." Basically, it allows front speaker only, rear only, front and reat together AND a quasi stero sound based on separate channeling of higher and lower frequencies. These too may be switched, to put the high in front or rear, and and the low in the opposite. position



    The spekers and grilles are the same front and rear. 6" x 9" speakers, 8 ohms work well with the dual set up. Ran my wires over the top when new headliner was put in, but many run along door jams. Walt-LA
  • Walt, your set-up sounds very interesting. How does it sound? Talk about wiring, running it through the interior makes perfect sense. I couldn't believe that Hudson suggested running wiring under the car when installing back-up lights.
  • Walt-LA
    Walt-LA Senior Contributor
    QUOTE: Walt, your set-up sounds very interesting. How does it sound?





    With my high frequency hearing loss, I'm not sure I'm the one to say. :) Bro-in-law says it is "reasonable. "And I keep it mostly tuned to classical. I also keep the lower frequency channel on the front speaker- which makes it a bit easier for me...



    It's odd that Hudson would suggest under the car wiring. The body manual routes after market turn signals from the cowl down beside the driver's side front door pillar into the space between the perimeter frame and the rocker panel and then back through a small hole behind the rear door, and up and over the inside wheel well to join the taillight wires that run from the roof under the rear deck. There are bendable metal retainers on both sides of the trunk opening in the '51 Hornet. Those on the right side. don't hold anything at present, and could be used for the right hand side back-up lights if you crossed over in the area behind the rear seat. Maybe they thought it was easier to run under, but wouldn't think so- unless lights were mounted on the bumper. Walt-LA
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