Whitewalls

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edited November -1 in HUDSON
Okay, being that there's mass outcry for a poll, I need to phone a friend on a decision here. My dilemma: Whitewalls or blackwalls?



Blackwalls are original, and on now. The whitewalls look more formal, but I don't know how I like them. I have posted a picture of the car, and another which I did a quick Photoshop whitewall job on.



Which is it to be?



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  • I can't see a sled with blackwalls....just doesn't look right!
  • Hudson Dave here I LOVE FAT WHITE WALLS but I am a little bias .LOL www.FatWhiteWalls.com
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    jamcoats wrote:
    Okay, being that there's mass outcry for a poll, I need to phone a friend on a decision here. My dilemma: Whitewalls or blackwalls?

    Blackwalls are original, and on now. The whitewalls look more formal, but I don't know how I like them. I have posted a picture of the car, and another which I did a quick Photoshop whitewall job on.

    Which is it to be?

    bw-sm.jpg

    ww-sm.jpg


    I think for this year car and style the blackwalls fit/look better - I guess its what I would expect to see on the car of this era.
  • The white walls define the look and make the car appear more elegant.
  • While the all blackswalls may be more correct, I like the whitewalls. That is what I went with for my 50 Pacemaker. It just looks better.
  • bull_islander
    bull_islander Expert Adviser
    never wear white after labor day...so blackwalls in the winter, whitewalls in the summer.
  • SuperDave
    SuperDave Senior Contributor
    That car has "CLASS". A dingified class.. Blackwalls for sure..
  • hudsonguy
    hudsonguy Senior Contributor
    To quote Luigi (from the movie Cars) Whitewalls say "Look at me....Love me!"
  • MikeWA
    MikeWA Senior Contributor
    I didn't look at the car before I voted, and assumed it was for stepdowns (wide whites all the way). That car might very well look better in blacks.
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    Mike (WA) wrote:
    I didn't look at the car before I voted, and assumed it was for stepdowns (wide whites all the way). That car might very well look better in blacks.

    I agree with mike - WWW for stepdowns, black walls on this one.

    When I look at cars from this period I think of non-paved muddy roads these cars used to travel. I would bet in the day a set of whitewalls would never look good with mud caked all over them.

    Stepdowns were built in an era of increasing highways and the beginnings of the super-highways, plus with the difference in ride height and stance the WWW tires look better on lower ride height vehicles. IMHO
  • For your car the blackwalls look perfect, the whitewalls look a little out of place IMO. Sort of like WWW on a PT Cruiser.
  • SamJ
    SamJ Senior Contributor
    I think the photoshopped whitewalls are wider than those on the market, and you probably have some choice in width. Judges and buyers will be attracted to WWW, purists to blackwalls.
  • Thanks to all for input thus far. Sam, there are only a few tires available in 6.00x19, I have Lester blackwalls on it now, and Lester makes a 4" whitewall also. The blame sidewall isn't but about 5" tall, so that's a lot of white! The Lesters have smooth, modern style tread. Firestone makes a 3 1/2" whitewall, so a little less width, which has a medium-style zig-zag tread like you'd see on Stepdowns, and BF Goodrich makes a prehistoric looking tire with chunky cut-outs on the sides in blackwall and 3 3/4" white.



    Lester

    Lester-550-17.jpg



    Firestone

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    BF Goodrich -

    http://www.coker.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=16883&cat=&page=1



    Feedback appreciated!
  • Oh, one more thing, whitewall tires for this car are about $200.00 each. I need 6, because of dual sidemounts; That's $1200.00 worth of rubber. Blackwalls are only $140, and I can get by with 4. Hence the difficulty of the decision....
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    The car looks great with blackwalls. I love whitewalls on the stepdowns, but they would look out of place on this car.



    Matt
  • hornet53
    hornet53 Senior Contributor
    $1200-$560=$640 in the gas tank. That's how far my debate would go.
  • They both look great, but in terms of financial investment, the blackwalls have my vote.
  • rambos_ride
    rambos_ride Senior Contributor
    hornet53 wrote:
    $1200-$560=$640 in the gas tank. That's how far my debate would go.

    Don't skimp!

    Go ahead and get the 2 extra blackwalls!

    That's still only 840.00 - new rubber all around that could be rotated to extend the life and still much less than 6 WWW (and looks better too!;) )
  • Uncle Josh
    Uncle Josh Senior Contributor
    I have whitewalls on the 49 Commadore but I wouldn't put them on my 36 Terraplane, or this one if I had it. Whitewalls on this old classic would detract from the great lines of the car.
  • Yeah! Whitewalls, definately!! Like Luigi (from Cars) says: "Whitewall tires say: 'Look at me! Love me!' " (I also like the way he sticks his tongue out when he says 'blackwall tires' as if it were "blecch-wall tires"... couldn't agree more.) Heck, I'm even thinking of putting white stripers on my '99 Olds Cutlass; they sure look good on our '92 Olds 98 Regency Elite--really classes it up. Gotta have something on car tires whether it's wide whitewalls, white letters, goldlines, redlines, etc. Blank tires make for a blank car. Pay the extra $$$ and go with the whites.
  • I'am a big fan of wide whites but......... I think on that car with the dark colors blacks look best, the whites make it look a little disco, too much contrast. Great car either way.



    Joe
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    jamcoats wrote:
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    Is a nice, fine white pin stripe on the perimeter of the rim (the bead) wholly inappropriate? I know what a nice detail it is on other cars. I wouldn't want to suggest that you do something non-factory to your beauty, but many cars had such a stripe on their beads. Is there a chance that this year Hudson did also and you inadvertently omitted it?
  • James,

    I had never considered that. Hudson didn't do it in '29, just the "spade" stripes like I have on the spokes. But I am not against such a minor modification. The whitewalls themselves would be a modification, as all '29 Hudsons came with blackwalls. I might do that to a spare rim and see what it looks like.
  • Hudsy Wudsy
    Hudsy Wudsy Senior Contributor
    James, I'm pleased that my suggestion might be of some use to you. I noticed the absence of a perimeter stripe the first first moment that I saw your beautiful '29. I wish I had said something earlier. Your sedan is just plain gorgeous! I want to tell you how really nice the black/green combination looks-- the way the green frames the windows, the broad beltline stirpe. If I recall right '29 was a record year for Hudson, wasn't it? It's no wonder when I look at yours!



    My '36 Dodge had a double pin stripe around each bead from the factory (along with a starburst of the same color radiating out from the center). I don't mean to compare my humble Dodge to your Hudson, but just to tell you how very nice the bead stripe complements the starburst. It also sets off the rim from the tire in a way that I know might like. Perhaps you could Goggle - image some '29 Hudsons, or other contemporaries, and find some views to study.



    My Best Regards to You,

    James P Sheehan
  • PAULARGETYPE
    PAULARGETYPE Senior Contributor
    I Like Both Looks If It Were Mine4 It Would Have White Walls



    Now If We Can Only Hear From Rambo A Few More Times Lol
  • James,

    Thanks for your kind comments. I am going to do that with vinyl tape to see how it looks, then if I like it I wll paint it on. The Ivory Jet Black and Reseda Green, with Old Ivory pinstripe color combination were the standard colors for first series 1929 model standard sedans. There were also four optional color combinations, some of which were rather funky, like blue over green with red belt molding. The most notable combination other than the black and green in my opinion is maroon body & fenders, with red belt & wheels. Our other Hudson, a 1929 Town Sedan, which looks just a little different, should be Hudson Blue with black fenders, blue wheels, and I think that is the way we're going to paint it. I too think the green does a lot for that car.



    Yes, '29 was Hudson Motor Car Co.'s highest production year, with nearly 300,000 Hudsons and Essexes made. Depending on your source, Hudson was either the third largest U.S. auto manufacturer behind Ford and Chevrolet, or the fourth, as some sources put Willys in there as #3. I have often wondered how many survived.
  • hi there, i did a google and up popped a green sedan. clicked on to the mid-south hudson chapter, great pics/site. check the rim/tires on the sedan there. dermott.:)
  • Geoff
    Geoff Senior Contributor
    I know it wasn't original, but I painted the rims on my '29 Hudson silver. They were done that way in '28 and earlier, and I reckon it looked much better than the black rims the '29's came out with. Haven't worked out how to post pics to the forum, sorry, otherwise I'd do so.

    Geoff.
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