Mexican Road Race Hudson...

SamJ

Thanks to Sean Wetherall...:D



http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=0Gis-KZsp8A

LanceB

Sounds and runs like my truck, I wish!



Nice clip

[Deleted User]

Really cool. I assume it's running some Chev smallblock variant?

Unknown

~ Thanks to 51hornetA ~



Engine: Edelbrock crate 350 CID engine, Edelbrock performer rpm intake (600 cfm), Edelbrock carb, K&N filter.



Turbo-Hydramatic 350 transmission



Front clip of this car is fiberglass



Front suspension: is off a Camaro.



Differential: a narrowed Ford 9inch.



Brakes: Wilwood setup 6 piston calipers; four-wheel discs with 3 master cylinders (two for up front and single for back)



When this amount of mods has been done you are not discussing Hudson Vs the others you are discussing engineering of components as the Studebaker that won had almost the same setup and most of that car was fiberglass as well. Are they actually Hudson and Studebaker? ... well they are in the same way a Chevy Malibu Nascar is like a Chevy Malibu you find on a dealers lot."

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I knew the front suspension, sound, brakes, engine, tranny, differential was not HUDSON. That car is a REAL road race car. I love the Hudson-look, but it was the Studebaker's aerodynamics that yielded the win in the end, apparently!



I noticed that there were at least a half dozen Stude's racing too, another advantage.



For those of you who THOUGHT the Hudson had an original suspension and that you didn't see it "roll" in the video, you now know why it didn't roll, PLUS how wrong one can be when one assumes certain things in life.



No original car from the 50's can go around curves and be stable like those cars did without heavy duty brakes & state-of-the-art suspension upgrades.



~ They look COOL! ~

Unknown

54 HSWH wrote:

~ Thanks to 51hornetA ~



Engine: Edelbrock crate 350 CID engine, Edelbrock performer rpm intake (600 cfm), Edelbrock carb, K&N filter.



Turbo-Hydramatic 350 transmission



Front clip of this car is fiberglass



Front suspension: is off a Camaro.



Differential: a narrowed Ford 9inch.



Brakes: Wilwood setup 6 piston calipers; four-wheel discs with 3 master cylinders (two for up front and single for back)



When this amount of mods has been done you are not discussing Hudson Vs the others you are discussing engineering of components as the Studebaker that won had almost the same setup and most of that car was fiberglass as well. Are they actually Hudson and Studebaker? ... well they are in the same way a Chevy Malibu Nascar is like a Chevy Malibu you find on a dealers lot."

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I knew the front suspension, sound, brakes, engine, tranny, differential was not HUDSON. That car is a REAL road race car. I love the Hudson-look, but it was the Studebaker's aerodynamics that yielded the win in the end, apparently!



I noticed that there were at least a half dozen Stude's racing too, another advantage.



For those of you who THOUGHT the Hudson had an original suspension and that you didn't see it "roll" in the video, you now know why it didn't roll, PLUS how wrong one can be when one assumes certain things in life.



No original car from the 50's can go around curves and be stable like those cars did without heavy duty brakes & state-of-the-art suspension upgrades.



~ They look COOL! ~

where did this information come from. Is there a source for it?

[Deleted User]

I am the source got it off the car. From a buddy of mine who road races and has pics of car.

Ol racer

FYI

Stock Suspension

Recently I purchased a VHS Video of early NASCAR (Grand National) stock Car racing featuring several Speedways (Fairground/horse Tracks) during the Fifty's. I was pleasantly suprised that it had sound and was like an old Newsreel with some color footage.. As we know Hudson's won most of the early Races..Unlike today, NASCAR raced several nights a week on rough Dirt 'Fairgounds' touring up into NY and over to Detroit then back south...



Hudson Suspensions were apparently 'very strong' as they raced thru big ruts over 100mph (as per the announcer comments), in ruts that litterly caused some other brand cars to roll over by themselfs (because of broken parts).Even though I am partial, It was obvious that 'all' of the Hudson's remained stable in the curves while other cars 'bounced' to the outside. Hudson's looked like on railroad tracks lap after lap. The only cars even close to catching at times were Olds & Chry's but they lost everything gained trying to navigate the turns.... Daytona had a couple miles straightaway down a blacktop then turned onto the sand to return back thru the ruts...



Because stock components were strong enough to take that racing abuse, I wouldnt be afraid to drive 200MPH with stock Hudson suspension on todays smooth highways after seeing the video



However, to road race a stock Hudson thru esses the steering would need quickened, and brakes upgraded to disc for repetitive braking at high speed. and from age and/or fatigue (not inferiority), I would magnuflux all the componets for safety...

Just a thought...

[Deleted User]

Maybe I'll keep the '37 'plane stock as-is AND do this up to be a PanAmericana racer look-alike:





1948 Ford Super Deluxe 8 I picked up this week...! You guys saw the yellow Volvo PV844 sedan in that video - it's just a 3/4-scale version on the '48 Ford!



I've got a '69 440 Chrysler engine that is done and ready-to-install...in something...hmmmm! Maybe I can put a '48-'49 Hudson grille on the Ford, as they are very similar in shape and size, plus some '52 Wasp taillights, along with that '52 Hornet hood ornament I've got laying around...:)

faustmb

That looks like a cool project. Keep us posted as you decide which way to go with the Ford.



Matt

[Deleted User]

The frame will definitely go away, that much is true. My youngest son wants me to put the body on a ranger 4x4 chassis and put 38s under it,but that might be a bit much. After watching that PanAmerica race footage, I'd love to build a car to be able to run that...



So many projects, so many dreams

So little money, so little time!

mrsbojigger

What year Camaro clip?
Chaz

[Deleted User]

If anyone has a WTN July 1968 a reprint from a March 1953 Speed Age magazine both contain a write up by Marshall Teague. The article has alot of info on what was done to the motors the speeds the cars could reach the handling ect ect. Now I by no way believe a Hudson can handle like a custom built race car , they are very very able cars. If I could type better/faster I would retype the entire article as I believe it would be very interesting to many of the Hudson guys here. I will note that in 1951 , Teague using a 51 Club Coupe with some 'work" done to it had top speeds of 123 mph and finished 6 in the Mexican road race. This of course was against Porshe Lancia Jaguar ect ect. As many know the Mexican road race was a grueling race . I really hope someone can reprint this article here.

hornet_54

nash4088 wrote:

If anyone has a WTN July 1968 a reprint from a March 1953 Speed Age magazine both contain a write up by Marshall Teague. The article has alot of info on what was done to the motors the speeds the c

That article will be republished in the March issue of the Southern California Chapter Newsletter and will be posted on the chapter web site shortly after.



Bob Ross