Got the spoons, need insrtructions

Unknown

Hey! guys, Phil again, I got my rims done, and I think I have a good idea how to install the flaps, tubes and tires, but I thought maybe some of the Old school hudsonites might have a couple of tips on the proper procedure for installing the tires on these rims. I have a couple of the old spoons used for prying the tires onto the rims, plus I know I've got to keep everything clean because of the wide whites. Is this right? Put the flaps onto the rims, maybe a little vaseline on the rim to ease the tire on? Put the tube in the tire with the valve stem lined up with the hole in the rim. Pry one side on then find the stem, pull it through the hole in the rim, then pry the next side on, expand the spit rim and install the cotter pin, then slowly fill the tube up in steps? Any tips would be helpful for I have never done this before (bicycle tires but not auto).Thanks again, Phil

Unknown

Not sure about the 28 rims but the 29 rims fold together with a tool ( Engine Crank) and the tire, tube, flap is easy to install. I put the tube in the tire, put the flap in the tire around the tube and put some air in to see all is good then let the air out. Then put it all as one on the rim, open the rim back up and fill with air and check.

ESSX28-1

28's work the same way as Ron describes. Main thing to remember is that the split rim will collapse smaller for fitting before expanding & clicking into place once tyre, tube & flap are fitted.

A split rim expander (& contracter) is very useful but take care not to distort the rim.

30essex

This may sound like a stupid question but what is a "flap". What does it look like and what purpose does it serve?

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My DB pickup has a tool for expanding the rim so it all slips onto the wheel in one piece. It works pretty slick but you have to make sure everything is clean. It also has a hand crank that has a socket on the other end for taking off the wheel nuts.



Harry

mars55

Here is the section on demountable rim tires from the International Automobile Handbook, published in 1927 that somebody placed on the web. Start by clicking on the page number 268 on the left. You change pages by clicking on the page number on the left.



http://members.fortunecity.com/xerog1/indices188up/browser.htm

ESSX28-1

30essex wrote:

This may sound like a stupid question but what is a "flap". What does it look like and what purpose does it serve?

A flap is the thick rubber band inserted between the inner tube & the rim. It serves to protect the inner tube from rubbing on the metal rim. Found in cars with split rims & still used in some larger trucks.

hudsonsplasher1

phil walsh wrote:

Hey! guys, Phil again, I got my rims done, and I think I have a good idea how to install the flaps, tubes and tires, but I thought maybe some of the Old school hudsonites might have a couple of tips on the proper procedure for installing the tires on these rims. I have a couple of the old spoons used for prying the tires onto the rims, plus I know I've got to keep everything clean because of the wide whites. Is this right? Put the flaps onto the rims, maybe a little vaseline on the rim to ease the tire on? Put the tube in the tire with the valve stem lined up with the hole in the rim. Pry one side on then find the stem, pull it through the hole in the rim, then pry the next side on, expand the spit rim and install the cotter pin, then slowly fill the tube up in steps? Any tips would be helpful for I have never done this before (bicycle tires but not auto).Thanks again, Phil

Phi,

I wouldn't use vaseline. I just put new tires on my 17, and I used talcom powder. It reduces the friction between the rubber parts. And is much easier to clean up.

Gene.

SuperDave

Try using a heavy duty garbage bag. gives a very smooth surface to slip the bead over and protects the paint on the rim. After the tire is mounted, just pull it out. Model A ford restorers have been doing that for years.

Davew. Fl

Unknown

On mine I did not need any type of soap. The rim folds enough the tire goes over it very easy.

Unknown

Nope didn't need soap or talcom. I just put the tube in, filled it, emptied it, then folded the flap in after it. fed the valve through the rim , pryed thr tire on, spread the rim with wood blocks and a bottle jack, cotter pinned it, filled it up again and DONE! Thanks to all, Phil