Newbie 232 Questions

[Deleted User]

Hi everybody, I'm new to the Hudson line of cars, so please forgive my ignorance. I recently purchased a 52 Pacemaker with a complete 232 that needs to be brought back to life. Does the 232 share the same block as the 262? Are the bores the same? If so, is it possible to build an engine with a 232block, 262 pistons and a 308 crank? What valves, cam and cylinder head could be used in a setup like this? I know very little, so any information would be appreciated. Thank You !!

mars55

To answer some of your questions. Yes the 232 and 262 share the same block. The 232 has a bore of 3 9/16 and stroke of 3 7/8. The 262 has a bore of 3 9/16 and stroke of 4 3/8 and the 308 has a bore of 3 13/16 and stroke of 4 1/2. I am pretty sure you can use a 308 crank in a 232 or 262 block. This applies to 1951 and later "wide blocks". Not sure if you can put a 308 crank in a 1948 -1950 "narrow block" or bore a 232 or 262 to 3 9/16.

SuperDave

Talking about 51 and later wide block engines, There are some deck hieght issues to deal with, piston pin placement etc. I don't have the specific information at hand. I do know that using a 232 head on a 262 raises the compression and a 262 or 232 head on a 308 does the same.I'm sure you will get a concise answer here on the forum. Good luck and welcome to the group!!

Jon B

Todd:



There's nothing wrong with asking this question here, in the Hudson Street Rod forum. But since you're essentially asking a "stock" question you may find a larger audience over at the "regular' Hudson forum.



The Street Rod section is a great place to ask about substantial mods to your Hudson (engine swaps, different suspension, chopped tops) but if you don't intend to depart too much from "factory", you would do well to post on the regular Hudson forum as well.

[Deleted User]

Thanks for all the good info guys!! I bought this 52 Pacemaker for almost nothing, with the ambitious plans of turning it into a custom. In reality iit might be better suited as a parts car. I want to get the car running ASAP so that I don't lose my motivation. I thought about trying to put a different drive line into it , but I thought that freshening up what I have, with a few changes might be the way to go. Anyway, I'll try to post some pics so that you guys can get a good laugh and see how much work I have in front of me. Thanks Again!!

faustmb

Hudson engines are very stout, so you may be able to revive it with less effort that you might expect. All the parts are available, and there are used engines around as well.



I drive a 50 Pacemaker wit the original 232 on a regular basis. It's no racecar, but does just fine in stock form for pleasure driving. I would like to get more power in the future, but it runs so good I am content to keep it as is for now.



Good luck & welcome.



Matt

SuperDave

Let us know where you are. Ya never know, maybe you have a Hudson nut near you. Most of us are more than willing to help a newbie.

[Deleted User]

I wouldn't see why a wide block 308 crank couldn't be swapped into a narrow block 232/262. The only thing required would be a .060"-ish shave off the top of a 262 piston. All the rods are the same length.



The final piston compression height of such a swap is really dependant on the deck height of the block. Most Hudsons have somewhere in the neighborhood of .025" deck clearance from the piston to the deck stock, so there's that much less you'd have to cut a 262 piston to achieve a zero deck.



I think such a combo is around 269 CID with a stock bore. and would respond really well to one of Randy's "Super 7x" camshafts and be real road mannerly.



The more I consider such a build, the more I think my Wasp will have something similiar.



Mark