Clifford Exhaust

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icon1.gifRe: Clifford Performance - Questions
Those of you with stepdowns running the Clifford short split type headers. What size headpipes are you running down from the header collectors. I was told by the exhaust shop I went to that only 1 7/8 would fit. I wanted the same size as the collector. Is this true or can the right size be fit in with a more talented pipe bender?

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  • Ol racer
    Ol racer Senior Contributor
    I use the long older style Clifford Headers with 2" Exh pipes since necking down smaller defeats the purpose.



    If no response on the Shortie Header size I would ask Clifford Tech what size pipe people been using and/or look closer at your car then consider trimming the obstruction slightly to enable using 2" pipes.
  • J Spencer
    J Spencer Expert Adviser
    I have the older (long) style Clifford headers on my 51 Pacemaker coupe and I have 2' pipes running all the way back to the mufflers, which are now 30' Smitties. I like these because they are a lot quiter than the 30' Cherry Bombs that were on it for almost twenty years.



    It is now much nicer to drive. I can actually hear the radio.
  • i'm using 2-1/2" on my PaceMaker with 2-1/2" inlet and outlet flowmaster

    series 40 mufflers. I have the older long length Clifford header on my Hudson

    and the collectors were 2-1/2" diameter. the mufflers are under the rear seat

    with short extensions that end right in front of the rearend. no tail pipes

    yet but they will be on there this spring.

    too loud for a radio, just enoying enought to piss off the punks in their rice

    burners playing rap on their stereos, not loud enough at the drive-in for

    crusing that's why i have caps i can uncork!

    PareRacer50
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    icon1.gifRe: Clifford Performance - Questions

    Those of you with stepdowns running the Clifford short split type headers. What size headpipes are you running down from the header collectors. I was told by the exhaust shop I went to that only 1 7/8 would fit. I wanted the same size as the collector. Is this true or can the right size be fit in with a more talented pipe bender?



    Rob,



    I'm using the newer style shorty headers with 2" headpipes. These go down to the Clifford Y-connector, and I'm then running a single 2-1/4" through the stock location out the back. I'm using a small turbo-style muffler in the stock location. It gives it a nice, mellow exhaust note without being too LOUD (which was my goal).



    Good Luck,

    Doug
  • 464Saloon
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    I kind of thought a 2 inch would fit. It is tight in there and I think they were just lazy, but what was I going to do at that point. I do have the Clifford Y which may or may not be able to be used again if I change it. My motor is haeavily modified so I am thinking I should go up to 2 inch then to a three out the back. I will have to open up some clearance where the pipe goes through the frame as the 2.5 hits at times. Any others out there with the later model shortys with ideas to share?
  • I posted the following over on the other thread:





    I've only dualed out a '49 Super Six Coupe. Muffler size/placement was a booger for sure.



    We used 2" pipe from the colletor on out. The guy did a wonderful job, but said he wouldn't take on another Hudson for the same price. It took him from 7am till 5pm. Both pipes snake through the same path as the original, barely fit through the hole on the H-brace. He bracketed them as to avoid any rattles and has so far was successful.



    The muffler we used was this one:

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    This muffler lost its hp advantage by its installation location. It should be installed as close to the header outlets as possible, but would not fit without causing problems with removing/servicing the transmission. It ended up in the stock location at the rear, next to the gas tank but fit well with the original heat sheild to protect the gas tank. It was the most compact dual outfit we could find in the 2.250" pipe diameter



    Even at the far end of the pipes, this muffler sounds GREAT! Not too loud, until you romp on it - which is exactly when you want to hear it.



    We attached the muffler to the tail pipes with 2" header collectors jammed up into the muffler inlets and welded. Then used another set of collectors welded to the tailpipes to bolt the muffler on in case we needed to take it out for heat reasons (or just run straight pipes!).



    Hudsondad's header connections look identical to mine, with the front header pipe running inside the pair.



    Available here or more info:

    http://www.jegs.com/p/Dynomax/760549/10002/-1



    Mark
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