Preference on Twin-H Air Cleaners?
RL Chilton
Administrator, Member
It's been a while since we had a poll (Hudsonkid hasn't been around lately).
Mostly, I'm just curious as to what the general consensus is on Twin-H Air Cleaners:
1) Square Inlets w/ Paper ( or Mesh) Filters
2) Square Inlets w/ Oil Baths
3) Round Inlets w/ Paper ( or Mesh) Filters
4) Round Inlets w/ Oil Baths
5) It's a Hudson they all look good!
6) Go with your year-appropriate filters- Originality counts!
Please feel free to post your reasons why you picked what you did. This poll is for looks AND function.
Seems at this point, I can go 3 of the 4 ways
Mostly, I'm just curious as to what the general consensus is on Twin-H Air Cleaners:
1) Square Inlets w/ Paper ( or Mesh) Filters
2) Square Inlets w/ Oil Baths
3) Round Inlets w/ Paper ( or Mesh) Filters
4) Round Inlets w/ Oil Baths
5) It's a Hudson they all look good!
6) Go with your year-appropriate filters- Originality counts!
Please feel free to post your reasons why you picked what you did. This poll is for looks AND function.
Seems at this point, I can go 3 of the 4 ways
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Well, first time I tried to do a poll, and it didn't work. Feel free to respond anyway, still wanna know what y'all think.:)0
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Square inlets Russell, and my choice is oil bath, as per original because they "fill up" this engine compartment better, and make the engine look more powerfull, at least to my eye.
Just take them off and look in there --- that six looks a little puny or lonesome without them, especially to the younger set, who grew up with massive, big block V8's to plunk into their rides.
That's part of why the early hemi's looked so good IMO too. Those big valve covers gave the engine a really brawney, powerfull look, even when it wasn't running.
Hudson had to do that with twin air cleaners, and oil bath. ( yeah, I know the oil bath was recommended for folks who drove the dusty back roads of America more than the paved roads, because the oil bath supposedly gave better grit and dirt protection).
Rancher/farmer option or not, I still like them best.
silverone0 -
I like square/mesh filters, but any of them look good. I have never seen round/oil bath before. I'm thinking they must be pretty rare.
Don0 -
I'm not a poll guy, don't like to pit one fellows ( or girls ) opinion against anothers......But, since you asked, I like the square/older style with dry filters and not the twin-H single bbl. The two-two bbl, but I think no two two bbl looks right unless the back air cleaner is a tiny bit taller than the front. Just like Hudson originally did it with factory twin-H. The back air cleaner needs to be higher so when you stand back and look at the motor the air cleaners look level. Hope that makes since?
Just my opinion.0 -
I'm not one to give a hoot what the next guy likes about anything, if it turns me on that's what I want. {don't allways get it tho } If someone doesn't like my car that's fine, I did'nt do all this work for them. It's for me to enjoy, my way. BUD0
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I hate to admit it but I do not know the difference between square inlets and round inlets (another opportunity for this old dog to learn new tricks)? But I do understand the Oil Bath/dry filter and like the looks and performance of the Oil Bath over the dry filter. When I bought my unit my supplier had both available. I selected the Oil bath because I remember them from my teenage years and simply think they look the best on a 52 stepdown. jmho
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Russell, if your doing this post to help you decide what to put on your car, you might want to wait a week or two. I heard a rumor that their might be an Edmond's aluminum two/two bbl intake with rebuilt carbs and linkage on e-bay. Maybe with the square and dry air cleaners too. I'm not sure yet, those air cleaners are hard to find with staggered heights like that. They're hard to part with. As an added plus, it's the close spread on the carbs! So it will fit in Pacemaker/Wasp.
Come to think of it, that would like nice in my Pacemaker! That's my avatar.:cool:0 -
I like the look of the square oil bath style, because they look so impressive under the Stepdown hood. However, if I had to choose for my own car, I would probably go with the square style paper filter ones.0
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Round inlets are 55 and up Square are 54 and earlier. You can load paper filters into the oil bath type to get the robust fill your hood look without the hassle of loading oil (Not really that much of a hassle). I have both on my Hollywood it came with those so I am using those my sedan has paper filter type so using that. I love them both.0
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51hornetA wrote:Round inlets are 55 and up Square are 54 and earlier. You can load paper filters into the oil bath type to get the robust fill your hood look without the hassle of loading oil (Not really that much of a hassle). I have both on my Hollywood it came with those so I am using those my sedan has paper filter type so using that. I love them both.
There ya go, the best of both worlds!0 -
Browniepetersen wrote:I hate to admit it but I do not know the difference between square inlets and round inlets (another opportunity for this old dog to learn new tricks)? But I do understand the Oil Bath/dry filter and like the looks and performance of the Oil Bath over the dry filter. When I bought my unit my supplier had both available. I selected the Oil bath because I remember them from my teenage years and simply think they look the best on a 52 stepdown. jmho
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I used to work for a warehouse distributor who's main line was WIX oil & air filters. We were tought to explain the difference between oil bath and dry type air filters by including in our presentation that most oil bath air filters would remove nuts & bolts from the air stream entering the carb throats, but if we wanted to filter dust & dirt, the dry type filter eliment was approximately 60% more efficient.
Jerry
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Just got home and glad so many people responded.
Bud-
Keep in mind I'm going to do what I please anyway, regardless of what others think. That's why my car will look the way it will and be 95% or so original, or at least "look" factory. The way my skirt gets blown up is to build the car Hudson might have built if the bottom dollar wasn't so damn important.
Bent Metal-
If you see that listing before I do, please send me a link, I'll look for it though. Great thought.
Sean-
That's good info, just like always from you. Very intriguing, too.0 -
Oh, and for the record, the round inlets and oil baths might not have ever been a factory option, but I've got enough parts and pieces probably to make a set up.0
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Square ends -- oil bath, as per factory.
I tried the paper inserts in these and didn't like the look of them. They looked a bit "phony" to me.
silverone
Bigger pictures of this engine can be found at http://www.hudsoncollector.com/forum_viewtopic.php?3.5920 -
VERY NICE engine stand! Do you have pictures and possibly build plans for those who would like a run in stand for thier Hudson projects? VERY KOOOOOOOOOOOL in deed!
Cheer from HOT0 -
Heart Of Texas wrote:VERY NICE engine stand! Do you have pictures and possibly build plans for those who would like a run in stand for thier Hudson projects? VERY KOOOOOOOOOOOL in deed!
Cheer from HOT
This run-in stand was cobbled together without any formal plan to follow Ken, but it would be very easy to draw something up, now that its built, and proved up. About three hours or so running time was put on this engine while sitting on the stand, carefully varying the rpm's up and down, warming it up to operating temp, and shutting it down to cool again, retorquing bolts, tweaking the carbs, etc. -- and just generally letting it "settle in", seat the gaskets, and expose any hot spots or whatever else might have appeared.
Having done this engine like this with the stand, I'll sure never do another without it. Once its off the stand, you know you've got a virtual "plug 'n play" assembly! Just drop it in, turn the key, and take her for a 200 mile cruise.
I did consider getting some Hudson instruments, and making a dashboard for the stand, but for this engine, I didn't want to delay the run-up, so settled for plug-in mechanical instruments for oil pressure and temperature, and a carefull "ear", to make sure nothing went awry right off the bat.
I'll get the stand out, take a couple pictures of it without an engine on it, add some measurements, and post them here. This thing is an absolute "must have" in my opinion, if you're doing an engine !
Not only that, but its way, waaaay cool when its sitting there on the shop floor, and you can touch the button on the solenoid, start 'er up, and let it sit there running while your buddies just stand there in awe !! I've seen hudson engines sitting on display stands in museums, but how many have seen one sitting on a stand RUNNING ?? Waaaay different reaction - believe me !! The grins are unanimous and from from ear to ear !!
I think I'm gonna someday do up one of my engines like this just for a shop display. That thing gets more attention than the cars themselves !! Can you imagine that thing sitting there running at a car show ?? You'd steal the show every time you started it, especially if the muffler was tuned to just the right pitch.
silverone0 -
I like my oil bath with the paper filters.0
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HK are those powder coated or painted? either way you did a nice job.0
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They look great. But that battery hold down...:p0
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Hudsonkid-
Those look great and I've decided to go this route, myself. Silverone is right, they fill up the engine bay better.
I've got a battery hold-down just like that one in the sedan:eek: . . . just haven't found the time to fashion a good one, yet.0 -
hudsonkid wrote:I like my oil bath with the paper filters.
Those look great, Hudsonkid! Do you mind telling us the paper filter element brand/part number?0 -
Ummm...2 of them sitting on top of a running engine (preferably in the car, ready to drive
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Engine back in the Coupe.
silverone0 -
silverone wrote:Engine back in the Coupe.
silverone
Wow Silverone, looks fantanstic!0 -
DaveFury wrote:Wow Silverone, looks fantanstic!
Thanks Dave --- I don't like that green knob on the battery disconnect though --- should be a red one !! That green kind of draws the eye to a non-stock item, (which I don't like, as most of you know by now).
This disconnect is just same the one you see on ebay from time to time --- does anyone know if they have any other color than green for the tightening knob?
I suppose at a show, I'll just take it off entirely.
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silverone wrote:Thanks Dave --- I don't like that green knob on the battery disconnect though --- should be a red one !! That green kind of draws the eye to a non-stock item, (which I don't like, as most of you know by now).
This disconnect is just same the one you see on ebay from time to time --- does anyone know if they have any other color than green for the tightening knob?
I suppose at a show, I'll just take it off entirely.
silverone
You can remove paint it with plastic paint and reinstall.0 -
WildWasp wrote:You can remove paint it with plastic paint and reinstall.
You might have the solution there WildWasp -- thanks for the idea !
silverone0 -
silverone wrote:Thanks Dave --- I don't like that green knob on the battery disconnect though --- should be a red one !! That green kind of draws the eye to a non-stock item, (which I don't like, as most of you know by now).
This disconnect is just same the one you see on ebay from time to time --- does anyone know if they have any other color than green for the tightening knob?
I suppose at a show, I'll just take it off entirely.
silverone
There have been starting problems with this type of disconnect. You may want to try a different style and move it to the ground side of the battery. I removed mine.
See this thread:
http://www.classiccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9325&highlight=battery+disconnects0 -
SRCraftsman2 wrote:There have been starting problems with this type of disconnect. You may want to try a different style and move it to the ground side of the battery. I removed mine.
See this thread:
http://www.classiccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9325&highlight=battery+disconnects
Well --- who'da thought this thread would lead here, -- but I'm sure glad it did ! I'm gonna go out and put that thing on the ground strap at least, --- if not chuck it completely !
I didn't like the "Walmart" look of it anyway.
The only reason I had a disconnect on the battery anyway, -- is a childhood memory of my Dad's almost brand new stepdown burning up sitting out in the driveway in the middle of the night. I never did hear what caused that fire, but my Dad showed up with another new Hudson a couple days later, and life went on, but I'll carry that memory to my grave.
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My custom disconnect unit looks remarkably like a snap-on wrench ....0
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