Rarest HUDSON? that was built for production?
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Rob: I have gotten several responses from the owner and asked that the added pictures be posted. It is obvious to me that the car is not a rust bucket albeit showing signs of the normal 54 rust that comes with use and outside storage. I suspect this car is factory original leather and would make a very nice car for the person willing to take it down to the metal and bring it back. Those tasks are not for me anymore so another HETer can have the pleasure. Unique opportunity for a person who likes 54s.0
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May or may not be a rust bucket. I guess rust is a relative thing, especially if you don't do the work yourself. In So Cal., rust like this car is pretty severe. Rust in rocker panels and rust seaping from under the trim are worrisome. It would be interesting to see the rear perimeter frame aswell.
Rob, you should buy it and you can have twins!0 -
nhp1127 wrote:May or may not be a rust bucket. I guess rust is a relative thing, especially if you don't do the work yourself. In So Cal., rust like this car is pretty severe. Rust in rocker panels and rust seaping from under the trim are worrisome. It would be interesting to see the rear perimeter frame aswell.
Rob, you should buy it and you can have twins!
No thanks, mine has cost me enough and there is much more to go. Now that I have joined the ranks of the unemployed,it is going to sit for awhile.0 -
I pulled a 54 Wasp Brougham out of a barn 35 years ago in Mitchelville Md. Clutch went bad and that is where the car sat. No engine or trans. Body and interior were perfect. Beautiful car. Nobody wanted broughams then , When I moved to Iowa I gave it to Tom Sutton who parted it out. It stunk so bad after being closed up and full of mouse crap it was useless. This thread is kind of interesting as it seems I have have some unuasal Hudsons over the years. 1928 Essex boatail, 52 Wasp hollywood 54 Super Wasp Hollywood ,54 Hornet Special coupe, 54 Wasp Brougham, 33 Terraplane 8 coupe,37 Model 77 Hudson sedan. OH WELL0
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Heart_Of_Texas wrote:Rob: I have gotten several responses from the owner and asked that the added pictures be posted. It is obvious to me that the car is not a rust bucket albeit showing signs of the normal 54 rust that comes with use and outside storage. I suspect this car is factory original leather and would make a very nice car for the person willing to take it down to the metal and bring it back. Those tasks are not for me anymore so another HETer can have the pleasure. Unique opportunity for a person who likes 54s.
He has yet to respond to me and I just checked the auction and nothing else has been added.0 -
oldhudsons wrote:
Hi everyone---Eldon's 31 boat-tail was previously owned by me & was restored by Steve Sessions in N.Y. I originally purchased it from a Smith (forgotten his first name) in Altoona, Pa. & thats as far back as I can go with it's history. There was one other 31 boat-tail that I was aware of in Canada at the time besides the 2 in the Harrah collection.---Cliff Minard.one problem with us trying to keep track of such rare & highly valuable models as the one-year-only model Hudson 8 boattail is that most of those known to exist DON'T belong to HET members, but to CCCA members, as they are one of the few Hudsons accepted as true "classic cars" by CCCA. Their members aren't necessarily maker loyal as we are but only interested in owning "classic" cars as identified & accepted by CCCA.
The only one I know of owned by an HET member is Eldon's.0 -
oldhudsons wrote:one problem with us trying to keep track of such rare & highly valuable models as the one-year-only model Hudson 8 boattail is that most of those known to exist DON'T belong to HET members, but to CCCA members, as they are one of the few Hudsons accepted as true "classic cars" by CCCA. Their members aren't necessarily maker loyal as we are but only interested in owning "classic" cars as identified & accepted by CCCA.
The only one I know of owned by an HET member is Eldon's.
Hi everyone---Eldon's 31 boat-tail was previously owned by me & was restored by Steve Sessions in N.Y. I originally purchased it from a Smith (forgotten his first name) in Altoona, Pa. & thats as far back as I can go with it's history. There was one other 31 boat-tail that I was aware of in Canada at the time besides the 2 in the Harrah collection.---Cliff Minard.0 -
I saw one of the Harrah boattails in L. A., owned by a CCCA member, when he advertised to sell it - it was in fairly ratty condition.
There is/was a restored one in Wisc. one by a pr. of brothers who were/are doctors & again CCCA members.
I saw another in a guys barn in a section of L. A. 30 or more years ago, belonged to a guy named Billy Wolfsberger - it was all original. I bought a '29 Hudson cp. from him that was sitting out.0 -
Cliff. Was not yours the one that was setting at a gas station at Bladensburg rd and New York ave in D.C. back in the middles 60's unrestored? Buzz Potter has a 31 Essex Boatail in Davidsonville Md, Tom Bowler0
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tombia wrote:
Hi Tom---No it was not to the best of my knowledge. I happened upon mine through a club member (now deceased) & just happened to get lucky when I contacted him in Altoona, Pa. It was of course unrestored with about 20 coats of hand brushed paint on it which evidently helped to preserve it.---Cliff Minard.Cliff. Was not yours the one that was setting at a gas station at Bladensburg rd and New York ave in D.C. back in the middles 60's unrestored? Buzz Potter has a 31 Essex Boatail in Davidsonville Md, Tom Bowler0 -
How about the 29 Essex Boat Tail Speedster. The body was built by Biddle & Smart. Real nice one was in Harrah's. I have only seen 2 of them.0
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EssexAdv wrote:How about the 29 Essex Boat Tail Speedster. The body was built by Biddle & Smart. Real nice one was in Harrah's. I have only seen 2 of them.
You're being modest, Lew...you own a pretty rare (and beautiful) car your ownself. How many '52 Commodore 8 ragtops are out there? :cool:0 -
I am currently restoring a 1938 112 Convertible coupe. I have found a '38 Broughm, but no other coupes. If anyone knows of more I would love to see some pictures.0
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Last one is a brougham . . . think Dave is looking for another convertible coupe. Red one, if I remember right, is an Australian model, or at least an export car.
For some of the long time HET'ers: What about TK's '38? Wasn't that a 112 Convertible Coupe? Don't know if I've even seen any others, other than the ones Rick posted.0 -
I'm looking... In the meantime, here's a 1938 Hudson Terraplane pickup -
And another... Probably the only two in existence -
Here's a link to the same pickup as shown just above, after Hyman LTD bought it, shined it up a bit, took off the fog lights and put some new tires on it...
http://www.hymanltd.com/search/details.asp?stockno=4000&recordCount=1#[/quote]
Hey Rick,
There's actually a gentleman here in my hometown who has a '38 Pickup, no bed but the rest of the truck is exceptionally straight, complete, and solid. He's not a Hudson nor even a car guy, he just got it in a trade and has it parked in his barn. I haven't yet been able to convince him to sell it to me. He is waiting for someone to offer him a mint for it.
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Yup, on both counts... I was only at Hershey for one day, and I didn't see that '38 convertible there
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The Red one appears a bit unusual, thought it might be an Australian Hudson but wasn't sure...
According to Aaron's spreadsheet, there are three 1938 convertibles
- One Hudson Terraplane (81) in South Africa;
- One Hudson (83 in Alma Arkansas;
- One Hudson Deluxe (84) in Caldwell, OH;[/quote]
The Hudson in Alma Arkansas was restored by the late Kelly H. I believe his widow sold the car ... to where I do not know. The following are before and after. Peter K sold the car to Kelly. After picture is at the last HET nationals Kelly attended.0 -
dave kastelic wrote:I am currently restoring a 1938 112 Convertible coupe. I have found a '38 Broughm, but no other coupes. If anyone knows of more I would love to see some pictures.
Kelly Hinegardner, now deceased, was a 38 Hudson fanatic.
He owned a 38 long wheelbase 8 sedan, 38, 8 Brougham, 38 coupe, 38 convertible .. his pickup was a 36 or 7.
Had lots of other Hudsons too... the 38s were his passion at the end.0 -
Yes, I sold him the '38 conv., it was a H6 but Kelly converted/made into a H8 as he was never able to find one.
I bought it up in the Napa Valley area of no. Calif.
Photo above taken in my one-time garage in Escondido, Cal.0 -
You old Hudson guys would know but I do not believe any of the pictures are '38 112 Convertibles; except the Indy Pace Car. I know the caption says it is a broughm but I would have to differ. It is obviously a coupe. A broughm would have a rear seat and this car does not. With a few the exception of a couple options my car looks identical to that car. Have a hard time believing the red car is a 112, Australian version or not. My understanding is the 112 was built as a low price car. That car is too nice to fall into this category. I do not know what the green car is but am quite sure it is not a '38 112 coupe either. Botttom line, still looking for a '38 112 Convertible Coupe.0
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Those trucks look great Rick! Noticed the one truck has wheels painted to match the body and the other truck has red wheels. Iwas told that my '38 112 might have pin strips on the wheels. I have pictures showing a stripe on the hood but not the wheels. Does anyone have any information on this?0
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Rick - Does it run, move? A bed & fenders isn't exactly easy to find or make, but wouldn't be impossible. I've got my project(s) for the forseeable future, but have little doubt that others would be interested (yourself included) - however I don't know of anyone with a 'mint' to spare. Too bad Bill Gates isn't a 'car guy'! Give it a bit of time, maybe your neighbor will tire of sitting on that old truck, or need some room for something else...[/quote]
He's never tried to start it but I have looked at it pretty closely and I believe it is in running condition with a little minor maintenance. This truck has been stored inside, it's in too good of condition. He's asked me to help him start it but haven't had a chance to yet. He wants it to park in front of his 1930's corner gas station-turned-into-pub. I'm afraid if he did someone would come along and buy it-one reason I haven't been in a hurry to start it for him. I've thought maybe I could find something that might look better parked there and trade him. I don't want to cheat him out of the truck but it needs to go to someone who will truly appreciate for what it is and not turn it into (gasp) chopped, bobbed, and channelled hot rod.0 -
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We're aware that the ones posted are not 112's except the Pace car. I think we're just trying to bring up all the 38's that we know of, at least that was my intention.
I don't know about "low-priced". Terraplanes were lower-priced than Hudson's. As far as '38 Hudson's go, yes the Brougham's cost more initially. The convertible coupes were actually slightly less expensive. But, even in '38, convertibles had gotten to be the most expensive of all available models.
Also keep in mind, that as far as HET products of the '30's go, Terraplanes would be more prevalent today, as they were when new, compared to the Hudsons. You may very well have the only '38 CvCpe that is left. That's a blessing, as I'm sure there are some models that there are no surviving examples. If memory serves correctly, there were some 12 different Convertible models available alone in '38. Surely some of those examples are no longer with us.0 -
Thanks Russell. I just would like to see a picture of a '38 112 Cocvertible Coupe if there are any left. I checked the HET Club roster and did not find any coupes. My understanding is the original post questioned what the most rare Hudson was. I took this to mean the fewest number of a vehicle manufactured. I have twisted this a little and am asking what is the rarest car still around. One of any year would obviously would be at least tied for the rarest. Anything else would be extinct. I know you more experienced Hudson guys know the difference in a broughm but most people probably have no idea.0
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whilest we're on the subject of rare Hudsons, if you take a look at the photo Ken took in my garage you'll see part of a green fender in the lower right corner of the pic. That is a long w.b. '34 T convertible with a 3 door hood - how many of those have you seen, or did you know they were even made (just to prick your memory & brain cells so to speak, LOL)?0
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Only have the interior to put in it and it is done. When I posted originally on this topic it did not belong to me. I got it disassembled and have been moving right along on it. The photo was taken two weeks ago and I had some bright work still to polish and assemble. Designed by Reid Railton and built by Coachcraft in London, England. I'd call it rare?0
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That is one great looking car, and i have really enjoyed reading this whole thread, very informative .0
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really a car to be proud of Brownie!0
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Love your car Brownie, it looks like a car out of a James Bond movie.
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I should have been more specific Russell. I was only referring to the 112 models when commenting on price. Not the larger Hudson's. I do not have the handbook with me that I got from Alex Burr . However, I recall that there were a number of convertibles models built in 1938. Many are probably long gone. By the way. Great car Brownie.0
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Hornet Jet?0
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