New Hudson High performance Aluminum Head now available
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New Hudson High performance Aluminum Head now available
After many months effort, Hudsonites in El Paso Texas are announcing the availability of a NEW HUDSON Hi Performance Aluminum Head. Rudy Bennett and his Hudson friends have spent months coming up with a design for a new Hudson Aluminum Head which they have named the TWIN-VORTEX Hudson Head.
We are now manufacturing and making available for sale a new designed aluminum cylinder .head for the 232-262-308 Hudson engines. This head will fit all of the wide block engines offered by Hudson during the 1951-1956 production years. The wide block head is being manufactured using 356-T6 (aircraft aluminum) which produces a product with a tensile strength of 36,000 pounds. The finished heads will have a textured finish including rows of 0.190 inch thick cooling fins to aid in heat dissipation and for added strength .(see the attached photos)
Featured updates
· The head manufacturing included using the latest casting techniques to assure improved coolant flow throughout the cylinder head is achieved.
· The gasket surface of the head is .100 inch over the stock Hudson head so the head can be safely milled to increase the CR above the stock 8.4 to1ratio this head achieves in standard form.
· The thermostat housing selected is a GM type which is located in the same position as stock heads. The flange was selected to assure better service without the cracking problems found in the Hudson OEM Thermostat housings.
· The head was designed to allow use of ¾ inch reach, 14 mm type thread spark plugs. (Less chance of stripping them) and allows the use of a wide Heat-Range spark plug. The sparkplug location was engineered to be close to the piston as opposed to the OEM Hudson head location over the exhaust valve. This design assures the sparkplugs will be cooled by the Air-Fuel charge from the Intake valve.
· The head bolt holes are 7/16 and can easily be drilled out to ½ size if needed
The head has completed several testing actions
· The Twin Vortex feature of this new aluminum head was flow tested. The modified combustion chamber was compared to the combustion chamber of a stock head. What we learned was the new head created a vortex which flowed around the valves towards the piston and out the intake valve. The stock chamber flow patterns indicated kick back of the flow to both valves.
Rudy Bennett credits Chuck Fellows, also an avid Hudson fan, with the combustion chamber design and testing. The product shown is the result of months of research into the successes and failures of past flat head engine head design. Coupling this with practical flow testing a final design was produced which is incorporated into the TWIN VORTEX head
The TWIN VORTEX Team selected EMI Manufacturing of El Paso Texas as their manufacturer.
For more information and an opportunity to purchase one of these heads contact:
Rudy Bennett – 4924 Grapeland Drive – El Paso, Texas 79994 – email: rbennett37@sbcglobal.net
After many months effort, Hudsonites in El Paso Texas are announcing the availability of a NEW HUDSON Hi Performance Aluminum Head. Rudy Bennett and his Hudson friends have spent months coming up with a design for a new Hudson Aluminum Head which they have named the TWIN-VORTEX Hudson Head.
We are now manufacturing and making available for sale a new designed aluminum cylinder .head for the 232-262-308 Hudson engines. This head will fit all of the wide block engines offered by Hudson during the 1951-1956 production years. The wide block head is being manufactured using 356-T6 (aircraft aluminum) which produces a product with a tensile strength of 36,000 pounds. The finished heads will have a textured finish including rows of 0.190 inch thick cooling fins to aid in heat dissipation and for added strength .(see the attached photos)
Featured updates
· The head manufacturing included using the latest casting techniques to assure improved coolant flow throughout the cylinder head is achieved.
· The gasket surface of the head is .100 inch over the stock Hudson head so the head can be safely milled to increase the CR above the stock 8.4 to1ratio this head achieves in standard form.
· The thermostat housing selected is a GM type which is located in the same position as stock heads. The flange was selected to assure better service without the cracking problems found in the Hudson OEM Thermostat housings.
· The head was designed to allow use of ¾ inch reach, 14 mm type thread spark plugs. (Less chance of stripping them) and allows the use of a wide Heat-Range spark plug. The sparkplug location was engineered to be close to the piston as opposed to the OEM Hudson head location over the exhaust valve. This design assures the sparkplugs will be cooled by the Air-Fuel charge from the Intake valve.
· The head bolt holes are 7/16 and can easily be drilled out to ½ size if needed
The head has completed several testing actions
· The Twin Vortex feature of this new aluminum head was flow tested. The modified combustion chamber was compared to the combustion chamber of a stock head. What we learned was the new head created a vortex which flowed around the valves towards the piston and out the intake valve. The stock chamber flow patterns indicated kick back of the flow to both valves.
Rudy Bennett credits Chuck Fellows, also an avid Hudson fan, with the combustion chamber design and testing. The product shown is the result of months of research into the successes and failures of past flat head engine head design. Coupling this with practical flow testing a final design was produced which is incorporated into the TWIN VORTEX head
The TWIN VORTEX Team selected EMI Manufacturing of El Paso Texas as their manufacturer.
For more information and an opportunity to purchase one of these heads contact:
Rudy Bennett – 4924 Grapeland Drive – El Paso, Texas 79994 – email: rbennett37@sbcglobal.net
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Awesome!
Now the important question ---Cost?0 -
Congratulations... It looks to be an engineering marvel! Thanks to everyone for your time and effort in bringing a new head to market. We needed that.
John0 -
Nice! Mark that down on my must-have list. Thanks to all involved for bringing this to market.
Now, where's my powerball tickets...0 -
Not sure if that is a picture of a cylinder head or the timber pattern? Just asking.0
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FANTASTIC! I love the fins too.:)0
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FYI
Congratulations to all the people behind this new design Hudson Aluminum Racing Head after years of having only one choice of performance Head available that actually needed 'tweaking' to better enhance On Track performance. Wishing you all the Best.....0 -
Better pictures and a price would make me happy
Thanks for investing your time and effort into Hudsons0 -
For Bob Ward
...Not sure if that is a picture of a cylinder head or the timber pattern? Just asking...
Picture of Head prior to finishing 0 -
For those who are seeking more information ... better pictures, cost... please contact Rudy Bennett, he will be glad to assist you in these areas.
Rudy Bennett – 4924 Grapeland Drive – El Paso, Texas 79994 – email: rbennett37@sbcglobal.net
Update: 7 August 2010 --information from Rudy Bennett and Chuck Fellows...
Ken in my previous emails, I failed to say this head is SOON to be available at a price of $900.00 each plus Shipping. At this time it will be 90 days until we can take orders. ( my Goof)
Please contact the manufacturer to order, the company has new owners and they are very helpful.
EMPIRE MOTORS
13451 MONTANA AVE
EL PASO TEXAS 79938-9616
915-856 9607
info@empiremotorsinc.com
Made in USA by American Craftsmen
We are in contact with a lot of Hudson owners answering their email and phone questions. We will continue to provide information to all who inquire. Thanks again for the support for our new Hudson Head.
Hudsonly Rudy and Chuck0 -
very impressive design with a ton of innovation designed into it. Rudy is all over this new piece and going the extra mile to make it right. I can't wait to try one on the 328 cubic inch Twin-H Twin-Turbo engine I am building for my new gasser drag racer!
My thanks go out to Rudy and everyone involved in this project. Looking forward to getting my hands and eyes on one in person!
later,
PaceRacer500 -
Bumped... see the added information in previous post from Rudy and Chuck about this new head...0
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In the email that I started with the folks at Empire Motors all these negative comments were discussed and I thought put to bed!!! The main comment that kept comming up was if Empire Motors was so "good" let them find their own head, cast it at their own cost and on and on.... Well, their new management stepped up to the plate and did all that we sideline folks complained that they should do. And, still we snap at them?
I think we need to eat a bit of crow (me included) and be excited that a new head is now available for our stepdown Hudsons. I for one thank them for what they did and since I am picking up a 50 Hudson this next week to start on I think I will give them a call--providing it will fit on my car....0 -
As long and they play straight I'd see no reason not to do business with them. You give money = you get the head you wanted (hopefully without defects) Simple as that. Lets look at the handwriting on the wall people the newest Hudson it is even possible to own is a car over 50 years old! These days we should be glad anyone produces anything at all for em in our disposable society. Now if they don't come through...let the dirt fly!0
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Maybe we could work out a group buy as some other clubs have?0
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Ken U-Tx wrote:Hmmm , this Empire Motors is the offshoot of the old MFT Manufacuring. They had numerous fraud complaints against them. Are they asking for deposits up front before they will cast a lot of those heads? Is that Valor Blazer guy still running it from behind the scenes, or using an alias??? Kenneth
Kenneth, Rudy and Chuck
Yes Mr Blazer is and hourly employee of EMPIRE MOTORS works with quality control and hands on all the many projects.
Chuck and Me were going to have a Head built just for us because we could not find a head to meet our demands then, we had a guilty feeling about being selfish that is when we called some of our good x-racing buddys and said,lets do it for all, ok thats how it all got started.
We have spent lots of our money lots of our time going to the plant two times a week some times more to help in this project and Most of ALL we enjoy doing it,we want to Help our many Hudson friends in Hudson land get a Cyl.Head that we think is the best Designed to be made at this time.
He is taking orders as of last week when Ken posted it for us and the payment is pay as it is built.
They have many cyl heads,intake manifolds,ex.manifolds and some cyl blocks for many cars such as Lincoln v-12 Packard v12 Lycoming and lost more that were ordered and never paid for and that is one reason they filed for Bankruptcy many years back.
We hope that this helps in some way as they want there name cleared and the Hudson people is a good starting group .
We are happy that someone is taking the time and our money to make us Hudson owners a quality part that not only looks very nice but,will outperform any thing out on the market.
Hudsonly to ALL Rudy and Chuck
Please call them for the del. date,as some have placed the orders in the past 2 days. Thanks for reading and May youall have a Blessed day0 -
Kdancy wrote:Maybe we could work out a group buy as some other clubs have?
Kdancy, that is a good one and we will ask them this week. I am sure that the more they make the price will go down,kinda like a PRICE ROLL BACK,now where have we seen this in addvertizing.
Hudsonly Rudy0 -
Rudy, I sent you a PM.
kdancy0 -
Last Bump... orders for this new head are being taken and there has been a great response. Rudy, Chuck and the Empire folks are very happy to answer the many inquiries and a BIG Thanks to those who have placed orders...0
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Ken U-Tx wrote:Hmmm , this Empire Motors is the offshoot of the old MFT Manufacuring. They had numerous fraud complaints against them. Are they asking for deposits up front before they will cast a lot of those heads? Is that Valor Blazer guy still running it from behind the scenes, or using an alias??? Kenneth
Why not use an escrow service? That way there is no risk for buyers if delivery is delayed. If the purchase contract is properly written there would be a cancellation option if delivery was not made in say six months from date of signing. That's what I'd do if there was any doubt whatsoever. Not saying anything is wrong here at all, just putting up this option if anyone needed total peace of mind.0 -
How soon will someone be able to do a credible dyno check of this nice new head vs. an original in good condition?0
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Park W wrote:How soon will someone be able to do a credible dyno check of this nice new head vs. an original in good condition?
That's a great idea. If I were running the company, I'd conduct a test with someone like Randy Maas and publicize the results. You'd get alot of bang for the buck in marketing.0 -
Park W wrote:How soon will someone be able to do a credible dyno check of this nice new head vs. an original in good condition?
One of the heads will be shipped to Randy Maas for him to test and we will be testing 2 of them on the road, in about 3 weeks we hope.
We will not be testing on a Dyno.
They will be pressure tested with air and then Water. We know that we had lots of water leaks in the Head bolt bore of some of the other heads that we used in Racing of years past .
Some of the brand x flatheads used a chamber design close to the one we built such as WEIAND,SHARP.and Navarro and the 1954 Packard 8 cyl is close also.
A good book that is full of pictures and info is by Joe Abbin of Albuq.N.M.
FLATHEAD FORD is the title.
Hope this helps Hudsonly Rudy and Chuck0 -
super651 wrote:********
We will not be testing on a Dyno.
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Surely you would want some solid facts & figures, to show how effective all the design and research has been? I'm certain I would if I'd invested months in design work. Sure, acceleration tests can be a quick first look at how effective you have been, but there is nothing like a Dyno test to get to the nitty gritty.
From post #1
"The Twin Vortex feature of this new aluminum head was flow tested. The modified combustion chamber was compared to the combustion chamber of a stock head. What we learned was the new head created a vortex which flowed around the valves towards the piston and out the intake valve. The stock chamber flow patterns indicated kick back of the flow to both valves.
Rudy Bennett credits Chuck Fellows, also an avid Hudson fan, with the combustion chamber design and testing. The product shown is the result of months of research into the successes and failures of past flat head engine head design. Coupling this with practical flow testing a final design was produced which is incorporated into the TWIN VORTEX head"0 -
It would be great to show dyno results as they should be good! Of course a CR increase by itself will show an increase; what would be interesting is a comparison of this head plus the traditional ones on the same CR which would have to be cc'd to ensure exactly the same CR.0
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terraplane8 wrote:It would be great to show dyno results as they should be good! Of course a CR increase by itself will show an increase; what would be interesting is a comparison of this head plus the traditional ones on the same CR which would have to be cc'd to ensure exactly the same CR.
Flow testing is great, but the dyno will show any real improvements very quickly and gives you real "seat of the pants" numbers to go by. I've seen instances of drag racers testing heads and the ones with the best flow bench # didn't transfer to the track as well as other "less flow" heads.
I'm sure these heads will be great but please do a comparison dyno test! I can't wait to polish one to see how well that goes!0 -
No doubt if they want to sell these heads and get back their time and investment, they will have to dyno test. As plentiful as dyno's are now and relatively inexpensive as compared to the past, the question is why not. I am on another site called realoldspower.com and the guys there building and racing Oldsmobiles are posting dyno prinouts all the time for the changes they are making. Not only fun to see the changes but very informative.0
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There's a shop here in Colorado with a chassis dyno, last I checked prices where:
http://thecarburetorshop.net
Dyno time per half hour:
$75/half hour for the first 2 hours, $70/half hour from there.
Dyno Tuner’s labor is $90/hr in addition to Dyno time.
Having their mechanics do a test-tune to your specs will generally run $550.
Not sure how this would compare to just an engine dyno.0 -
GrimGreaser wrote:There's a shop here in Colorado with a chassis dyno, last I checked prices where:
http://thecarburetorshop.net
Dyno time per half hour:
$75/half hour for the first 2 hours, $70/half hour from there.
Dyno Tuner’s labor is $90/hr in addition to Dyno time.
Having their mechanics do a test-tune to your specs will generally run $550.
Not sure how this would compare to just an engine dyno.
Anyone willing to fork over $550 to satify your quriousity? Just qurious. Lee0 -
Lee O'Dell wrote:Anyone willing to fork over $550 to satify your quriousity? Just qurious. Lee
I don't think you understand where we are coming from. It's not just to satisfy our "curiosity", but a dyno comparison is a major tool in marketing a new product and showing the perspective customer that it's not just a pretty aluminum piece of metal with fins, but a real performance product, and you don't have to be racing to appreciate that. It sounds like it is, but you never know until you actually have numbers before and after to compare. If I were making and marketing them, it would be money well spent if it performs as expected as it should result in extra sales.0 -
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