paint match

Chris Smith
Chris Smith Expert Adviser
edited November 2012 in HUDSON
My new 54 Hornet coupe (thanks Lee) is an original lipstick red car with a green interior (weird aint it?), anyway I've never found a paint chip for lipstick red. Anybody know a modern paint code to come close? I also find myself in need of a 54 power brake pedal pad for my other club coupe

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  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Hi Chris When I had our 54 hollywood painted I phoned Charlie Regenerous sorry about the spelling but he passed away . He was the paint adviser for the Hudson club. He sent the paint mixing for the closest lipstick red. He called it medium scarlet red tinted. It is PPG numbers.
    If interested pm me. PS I also have numbers for corination cream. now called pastel ivory.
    Hudsonly Ray
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    Chris, I would say that we have sisters from the same mother. Would you post a few photo's of the 54 you just got....
  • lostmind
    lostmind Expert Adviser
    Brownie,Mid 70's T-bird had a very close match. Not sure of the name , but you can't miss it on the color charts.
  • Chris Smith
    Chris Smith Expert Adviser
    Brownie, Here is a picture where it sat for decades I'd say since the tags expired in 1984
    There are a couple clues to whats under the hood and why I jumped on this one.Photobucket
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Hi Brownie I sent a picture of our 54 hornet hollywood to my cousun to enail to you but your computor rejected her email to. Ray
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor

    Let me quess Chris. Since the trunk is open are clues there? Could it be the oil cans and coil springs.? Funning aside, how is the restoration progressing?
    Lee O'Dell
  • Chris Smith
    Chris Smith Expert Adviser
    Lee, Kelly won't let me touch the new one until I get my original 54 on the road. She gives me grief if I even gaze at it too long. You know the drill, happy wife happy life
  • Lee ODell
    Lee ODell Senior Contributor
    HA HA HA thats funny, but true Chris. See you at the Christmas party. Lee
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    edited November 2012
    Sweet Car... I guess George was big into custom plates? What did you see under the hood? Are we talking racing stuff like the plates say? Love the Chrome wires shown in the trunk, I would guess that you have them all around? Too early to say anymore about mine because I have a lot to do before I fire her up. I have been collecting some parts locally (Glen Johnson is always a great resource. I'll let you know when I fire it up.
  • Chris Smith
    Chris Smith Expert Adviser
    It does have five motorwheel lip lace wires. Under the hood is a no kidding real factory 7x engine with all the proper pieces in place. Nothing aftermarket that I see. The twin exhaust pipes are a clue in the picture. 232 studded head and the block number indicates that it was made on the custom assembly line. No dents and only surface rust from cheap primer paint. If I can believe it, the odometer says 30k. It looks like the guy parked it 30 years ago, pulled off most of the trim, primer painted it and let it set to slowly sink into the ground. I found all of the unobtainium trim parts so Im good to go when ready. I plan on pulling the pan and cleaning it out then rebuilding the carburetors and cleaning the gas tank before I think about starting it.PhotobucketPhotobucketPhotobucket
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    Chris, I guess George like race cars. The one that I have, as I have mentioned before, was raced before George bought it. I would guess that he put my car out to "bake in the sun" when he ran across your car with all the high performance goodies. By the way, does your car have traction bars on the back. Mine does and also has a cut out down by the bottom of the fire wall. I continued cleaning the car today and found that George had put axel grease on the interior bright work as well. I cleaned off the glove box and ash tray (I even found a lighter in the ash tray) and found that the chrome is just like new. since I plan to do the "lipstick red" thing I will wait to clean off the rest when I strip to paint the dash. I know it is good for now. I also stopped by the paint shop today and they do not have mix formulas that will work for the old colors. The base color has changed too much over the years. I forgot to take the 70 T Bird data down so I have another reason to visit. I may just pick a modern red that looks close and go with it? I pulled the radiator today and took it down and plan to do the gas tank later this week. Need to rest a bit? Well, that is most likely more than anyone wants to read so I will stop with this....
  • Chris Smith
    Chris Smith Expert Adviser
    Brownie, Yes it does have traction bars. I wonder if he had Shelby American make them when they were at the Torrance airport. They look just like the ones gt350 Mustangs had on them. I also have a 63.5 Galaxie 500xl with the same looking traction bars. I know it was an orignal lipstick red because the firewall is that color and places where the primer has chipped its red. No grease on this one because he took most of the trim off. The Sherlock Holmes in me thinks he never intended to have it sit so long and it was the car closest to the front driveway.
  • faustmb
    faustmb Senior Contributor
    Chris & Brownie, to say I am jealous of your cars is an understatement. Awesome to see these cars brought back, nice job jumping on these.
  • Browniepetersen
    Browniepetersen Senior Contributor
    edited December 2012
    I have been able to find most all the parts that were missing from my car with the exception of the "Special" chrome trim on the passenger side and the small trim part where the radio tip clips into the bottom of the windshield. I am going to my interior shop this morning to talk to him about how we are going to do the seats and stuff. I expect that it will be next to impossible to find the correct wool to match the red "faux leather" so I guess I will go with "close" and call it good. My car was the cream color. The firewall and other areas like the trunk still show signs of the original paint job. Right now my plan is to have the top that original color.
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    This is the PPG acrylic enamel paint numbers given to me bo Charlie Regnarus former paint adviser for HET club.

    Corination cream

    DMD 640 11.8
    DMD616 16.1
    DMD 648 128.2
    DMD 641 283.4
    DMD 663 11090.0
    DMD 695 1262.0

  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Sorry should be DMD 1090.0
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Pastel Ivory

    Base color parts cumulative
    DMR486 yellow oxide 18.0 18.0
    DMR 490 strong black 8.0 26.0
    DMR 487 organic yellow 138.0 164.0
    DMR 400 rich white 924.0 1088.0
    DXR 495 catalyst 20.0 1108.0
    DMR 499 mixing clear 218.0 1326.0
    acrylic enamel
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    If you have 54 hudson with a brown dash

    DAR 3517T sub stitute RMR 435 to 431 88 chev ?

    Medium scarlet red tinted

    code color cumulative parts

    DMR 401 white 19.4 19.4
    DMR 490 strong 8 26.0 6.6
    DMR 475 red oxide 101.3 75.3
    DMR 464 red molo ? 201.7 100.8
    DXR 495 catelyst 221.7 20.0
    DMR 451 dark per 1066.4 844.7

    Mixed in 64.5 DMR 475 1.2 DMR 490

    This is or 54 hudson hornet and what I used on our hollywood Hope this helps
    Hudsonly Ray
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Hey Brownie Try SMS auto fabric of portland Org. I sent my swatches of the brown cord cloth and they had it reproduced for our hollywood. Ray
  • duncan
    duncan Expert Adviser
    Sorryfor the mistakes my papers were so faded I have a hars time reading them.
    The medium scarlet red should read DMR red molo 201.7 208.8
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