Wheels and Tires

[Deleted User] · March 2007

When I Bought The Car From Bill Albright It Had 87,000 Miles On It. It Went Into My Garage For A Complete Rebuild. That Was In 1993 And It Came Out In 1998 As A Car From The Showroom Floor. Found A New Speedometer And Started With 00,000 Miles. Had Bias-ply Tires Which I Drove For 20,000 Miles And Was Hating To Drive It. So On Went Radials 215-75rx15 And The Car Now Has 102,000 Miles So I Put New Tire, Radial, Same Size On It. Rides And Handles Like A Dream. By The End Of The Year It Will Show At Least 115,000 Miles. I Built This Baby To Drive And We Do. Still Has The Same Motor I Rebuilt When It Left My Garage And Still Runs Great. Anyone Want To Follow Me Across This Country, Pacific To Atlantic? Just Make Sure You Can Travel At Least In The High 80's. Walt.

HUDSONNUT · March 2007

Walt, it's great to hear about your trips and your great car. We hope to talk to you at the Western National and get some suggestions on putting AC on our 50 Super 6.

We put 6K miles on our car last summer and hope to do @ 8 - 9 K this summer and think maybe AC would make the trip a little more comforable this year than last year w/o AC. We'll have to convert to 12volt system before putting the AC - one thing leads to another!

Thanks for your help on solving our heating problem with the plug in the Thermostat housing that you sent us after we got back from the National - it works great!!

See you at the Western Regional.

Hudsonnut

(Tom C)

harry54 · March 2007

Walt, Thanks for the details on the Car... Sounds like a great driver... I just put 225's 75r 15's on my 54 Hornet sedan and luv it... However, is there a reason that you went with the 215's as they are about 1.5 inches shorter the the 710 bias plys... As mentioned in one of the earlier post's , is there an obvious problem with right front tires rubbing on front brake lines ? I know that there are quite a few Club members running the 225's and that is the fist time I had heard of a problem with contacting brake lines... Should I be concerned ? Thanks....

[Deleted User] · March 2007

Keep an eye on that right front tire where it can hit the brake line. Also make sure you reinforce that rear track bar at the frame. Just turning corners put a hard strain on the right side. That bar was put there to keep the rear in line when turning and to take the weight off the rear spring shackles. Also the fuel line passes behind that right front tire. I'm making the trip to Mesa, AZ so would like to meet a few Hudson people that have listened to me and thanked me for the info. Walt

[Deleted User] · March 2007

You better make sure you carry the same size spare as the tires on your car. Putting a smaller or bigger tire on the front will only affect the steering. If put on the rear while driving straight you can break the spider gears because one axle is trying to turn faster than the other. Bad thing to do.

hudsonguy · March 2007

harry54 wrote:

Walt, Thanks for the details on the Car... Sounds like a great driver... I just put 225's 75r 15's on my 54 Hornet sedan and luv it... However, is there a reason that you went with the 215's as they are about 1.5 inches shorter the the 710 bias plys... As mentioned in one of the earlier post's , is there an obvious problem with right front tires rubbing on front brake lines ? I know that there are quite a few Club members running the 225's and that is the fist time I had heard of a problem with contacting brake lines... Should I be concerned ? Thanks....

Harry,

I've got 225's on my '49, and I did indeed notice that the right front has been rubbing on my brake lines, along with the fuel return line I've routed alongside them. I'm going to bolt some sort of guard on there, realizing it's got to be rock solid, and not cause any damage to the tire. I'll probably also be a little more careful when turing hard right.

Doug

harry54 · March 2007

Walt, What would you say is the difference in the Speedo Calibration for the 215's vs 710' s? 5 mph at 65 ?

Unknown · March 2007

hudsonguy wrote:

Harry,

I've got 225's on my '49, and I did indeed notice that the right front has been rubbing on my brake lines, along with the fuel return line I've routed alongside them. I'm going to bolt some sort of guard on there, realizing it's got to be rock solid, and not cause any damage to the tire. I'll probably also be a little more careful when turing hard right.

Doug

I've been running 225's on my wasp for several years and redid the brakes about a year and a half ago. I didn't notice any rubbing at that time when I replaced the original hoses. I want to check for this when I get it out this Spring. Wasn't someone talking about putting 245's on a while back? I have a devil of a time getting the 225's off the rear now.

[Deleted User] · March 2007

215 is the replacement for 710 by all tire charts. I saw no difference in my miles per hour. Remember a speedometer cable turns 1,000 times at 60 miles per hour. I always check with mile post signs that start at o miles and end at 5 miles. There are alot of these check points across this country. When I installed the 2.73 gear ratio in my car, yes, it's a DANA spicer gear set, i was off 6 MPH. Took the car to a speedometer shop and they installed a small unit on the trans and my cable to it. Now at 60 i'm doing 60.

464Saloon · March 2007

51c8Joe wrote:

first set of numbers is width at widest point of tire normally inflated in millimeters. Divide this number by 25.4 to obtain width in inches.

second set of numbers is aspect ratio - percentage of tire width in relation to sidewall height. often referred to as "series".

third number set is diameter of wheel rim.

so, divide first number by 25.4. multiply by second number as percentage. multiply result by 2. add wheel diameter for total height of wheel/tire.

235/75R15 -- 235/25.4= 9.25 X 75% = 6.94 X 2 = 13.88 + 15 = 28.88 inch

so you have a tire 9.25 inches wide at widest point, and 28.88 inches tall.

What gets a little confusing is that studying all the spec info on Tire Racks website, is that when you keep the first number, for example 225 but you change the second number for example 75 to 70, the diameter is indeed shorter but the width is slightly wider. Same with a 60 series, shorter still and even wider, so the aspect ratio must have something to do with width also, just not sure how it is figured in using the formula. The more I look at it all the better a 235/70/15 is looking. Wish you could get bigger tires in these cars as you have so much more to choose from. I am not all that excited about what is available in 75 and 70 series.

Unknown · March 2007

I think stepdowns look better with taller tires and the 215's are a little short, whether they're the correct replacement or not. The 225's are a definite improvement in the stance, and I'd go with 235's, but don't think they'd fit in the rear wheelwell. Maybe have to disconnect the shocks.

Unknown · March 2007

hudsondad wrote:

I think stepdowns look better with taller tires and the 215's are a little short, whether they're the correct replacement or not. The 225's are a definite improvement in the stance, and I'd go with 235's, but don't think they'd fit in the rear wheelwell. Maybe have to disconnect the shocks.

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[Deleted User] · March 2007

Just wait till they get a flat rear tire in the middle of the night and on a lonely road, we will all hear the SCREAMS. If car has to be jacked up with a bumper jack and schock disconnected, I would never get under that car. Walt.

464Saloon · March 2007

Well maybe my car is different but I put a 235/75/15 up in the back that came off my 51 Ford PU. Of course the bolt pattern wasn't the same but I got it up in the well and had the bolt pattern been the same it would have gone on. That is one of the reasons I came to the conclusion that a 235/70/15 would make a nice all around tire. A little bigger and wider that stock, but not too much.

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