UHaul Car trailer experience
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Ken - last time I had occasion to use U-Haul they gave me a LOT of guff about the '39 BB PU being too big & heavy for their trailers; you might want to call & see what their max. load is.0
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Thanks Pete... I have checked they have a 4K limit on the trailer and the total of the car and trailer is rated against the tow vehicle. I told them I was putting a Chevy Pickup on the trailer ... as sons truck weight is close to the Stepdown.
Concerned about the handling etc with Hudson aboard.... thanks again.0 -
Ken;
I manage an equipment rental yard, though not a U-haul they call me all the time to see what my requirements are for towing heavy loads. First off I require anyone hauling any equipment other than my smallest tractor or excavoter to have a 3/4 ton tow vehicle. Any half ton vehicle can pull but most can't stop a heavy load in an emergency situation. Even with trailer brakes most half tons are not adequate. The other thing is vehicle width, my Hash is too wide to go between the fenders. The other problems with half ton trucks is the axles are too light and if they are running normal tires they are too light for the load of towing heavy cars. What I am trying to tell you is for your safety and the safety of others on the road find a friend with a 3/4 ton truck or better yet a 1 ton truck to tow the trailer for you. I talk with U-Haul employees all of the time who tell me about their customers who ruin their tow vehicles trying to tow heavy vehicles on trailers. For pulling heavy equipment I use two axle trailers with electric brakes, double safety chains and chains and binders to hold everything down. If you use straps use the widest heaviest straps you can buy and stop and check them often. And remember that just because someone will rent you a trailer doesn't mean they know what is safe for you to use. Most of my employees are good guys but they will take short cuts to make their job easy and I have to double check everything to prevent law suits.
Harry0 -
The UHaul trailer is fourteen feet long, and the left fender can be moved out a little so you can open the door. UHaul would not rent me a car trailer, I first told them the car was a Hudson, they did not understand, so I told them a '76 Chevy Impala,, they could not find that car listed, If it is not in their copputor, it sure is not in their brain. When I said Ford pick up, it was to big. After a hassle with renting car trailers, I finnaly bought one, one of the best items I ever bought. Good Luck. Arnie M.:D0
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Ken
I pulled a 51 Commodore 8 from Jasper Tx to East Tennessee last year on a U-Haul. Very tight fit between the fenders and rocker trim. My passenger side trim is going to have to go to the stainless doctor for some major straightening. When the car moves around it impacts the trailer fenders. I found it hard to pull at more than 50 to 52 MPH. The trailer would start swaying badly at anything above that speed. I towed with an 02 Ram with 360 auto. No problems pulling the load, even in mountains. Only real problem was speed ( or lack of).
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Heart_Of_Texas wrote:I would like to hear from those who have had experience using UHaul car trailers with Stepdown Hudsons. Good - Bad - Or Ugly. My tow vehicle is a 1/2 ton Suburban with heavy duty frame mounted hitch.
Reponses via the forum or PM directly to me.
Thanks in advance.
Ken,
Harry brings up some good points to think about. I can tell you from direct experience it's much better towing with a 1-ton vs. a 1/2 ton!
But, I think your 1/2 ton Burban will do just fine towing a Stepdown since the max weight of a Stepdown was around 3850 fully loaded.
Just, Make sure your hitch and ball are rated for at least 6000lbs - and if you don't have an electric trailer brake controller installed...better do it, you can't rely soley on your tow vehicle to stop and surge brake systems suk IMHO.
I don't know about a 14' trailer though - the wheelbase on a 4 door is 124" that's 10.33333333 feet long, not counting the rest of the body and bumpers hanging out...a 2 door Hudson might fit...but I can tell you from experience that my 4 door Hudson(s) on my 18ft trailer bed barely fitz end to end!
Hey - Since, you're down in Texas these guys are located in Sherman Texas...I'd bet you could find a good used rollback trailer like this since they're manufactured locally...
http://www.kwikload.com/
If you've ever thought of buying a trailer...I'd highly recommend this style. I bought my Sloan Rollback Trailer - used - in September 2006 and I've used it 6 times and it's already paid for itself!
The thing about these trailers is, no ramps, they have removeable fenders - but the trailer is wide enough you do not have to take them off to load a Hudson Stepdown AND you can fully open the car doors on the trailer and still have a couple of inches to spare - even with the fenders still on!
They're are also the lowest sitting trailer on the market and claim you can load a car with 4" of ground clearance :eek:0 -
NOTE: This is a good sized trailer w/18' bed and it barely fitZ end to end with the bumpers on!0
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Back in '76 when my Terraplane broke down during a long trip, I just rented a U-Haul van (the big one) and drove the Terraplane right into it. Easy as pie! (Well, the van was a bit high off the ground and those wooden planks sagged a bit when I drove her up....). But it sure beat renting a car trailer and trying to drag it behind my Honda Civic....0
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Thanks for all the comments. They are very helpful. Im planning to go interstate and bring back a 1937 Terra in a few weeks time using a hire tandem axle car trailer. Im also looking for a car trailer to buy. You dont have to use one many times to make it pay for itself. My father use to swap the rego disc from his small 6x4, to his tandem. The rego didnt specify what sort of trailer it was. Regards, Barry0
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Ken;
something else to remember is not just the weight of the car you are towing but the trailer weight also, and anything you pile into the car or back of the Suburban. Everything affects how the rig tows. On the trailer you optimally want the weight distributed 60/40 with the heavier end forward of the axle, too much tongue weight though will cause your front end of the vehicle to get light reducing steering effect and sway, with too much weight back though the back end of the tow vehicle gets light and causes the rig to sway and jack knife, balance is everything, and go slow, if anything bad is going to happen it happens faster when you are going faster. Dans trailer looks like a good one. I also use a fenderless trailer sometimes, it's higher but it also has the tires under the bed so no problems with doors and fenders.
Harry0 -
If you do rent a U-Haul, it can be cheaper to rent one from where you are, and tow it empty to the car. I did that once, and it was about $220 less than renting one where the car was, and turning it in at home. The daily rate at the time was $50, whereas a one-way rental was about $425. It took 4 days to go and come back with the car.0
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I just used a Penske trailer to move my Pacemaker last summer. It worked out fine, but I probably wouldn't do it again. The trailer was really too short to safely carry the car. The rear of the hudson hung off the back about two feet.
Uhaul will rent a trailer as long as it's for an approved model, which you can check on their website as a quote. Also, daily rentals can be much cheaper but are only allowed for "local" rentals. The trailers don't have odometers, but I suppose you could run into insurance issues if something did happen and you were out of the local area.
Also, the newer Uhaul trailers have the hinged fenders which should make your life easier for loadind and unloading. The Uhaul dealer could probably make sure you get one if you ask in advance.
Good luck,
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Matt,
Boy that must have been a "fun" tow!
Looks like the car being so far forward on the trailer the tonque weight must have really dropped the backend of the tow vehicle!0 -
I won't deal with U-Haul unless I have to. I've had good experiences with Penske, but they won't rent you a trailer unless you also rent one of their trucks, at least the offices I've dealt with. :cool:0
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Sam, it may be there way of insuring the tow vehicle is up to the job. If they service the truck then they know the brakes are good and the bearings and other essentials. One thing you find out in the rental field is no matter how many safety instructions you give or what you do to protect the renter they will undo it all with stupidity then sue you because you didn't realize how stupid they are. We were sued for a million dollars from a customer who rented a trailer with a CJ Jeep, had it grossly overloaded, tried to beat a red light and had to turn at the last second going to fast, rolled the jeep and killed his friend. He won because he convinced a jury that even though we had warned him and he had signed papers saying he knew the risk, we really shouldn't have rented to him because he wasn't a responsible person and we should have known that, he also claimed we should have known not to hook a trailer to a CJ, which we no longer will.
Harry0 -
rambos_ride wrote:Matt,
Boy that must have been a "fun" tow!
Looks like the car being so far forward on the trailer the tonque weight must have really dropped the backend of the tow vehicle!
It actually towed fine, but only because the tow vehicle was a 25' penske diesel truckThe scary thing was that the truck was equipped with cruise that didn't shut off with the brake pedal ! These trucks shouldn't even have cruise control to begin with.
Matt0 -
We have a 16' trailer with 2 dexter 3500 axles and electric brakes. Hudsons are a tight fit width wise compared to Olds and pontiacs that we've trailered. We've towed with full size Blazers, a Tahoe and even a 1400 mile round trip to Kentucky with a Ford F 150 302 5 speed stick. A little slow on some of those long hills with the Ford, but no problems. We've never been limited on how fast we could go, but I'm sure a heavier longer wheelbase truck with a diesel could do better. I thought the electric barkes with a good controller work well.0
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Here is a trailer I bought used for $800. It is an older model, but had new tires and electric brakes. I repainted it and added lights and wiring. I repacked the bearings and it's ready to go for less than 1K. This might be an option for you. I would stay with at least an 18' length. This one has 18' treads and an overall length of 20' plus. It is a dove tail design which keeps the load height pretty low. I figure I could get most of my money back when I no longer need it, compared to a rental that is gone for good.0
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when i first picked up my 52 coupe i used a u haul trailer. i lied and told them i was towing a vw bug because i was worried they wouldnt rent it to me if i told them i hudson. when i got the car on the trailer i think i had about an inch clearance on bothsides. and the rear wheels were about a foot from the rear edge. it was close! if you need transport i have a friend that does that. pm me if you want his number, his name is wayne, bill knows him too. -john0
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UHaul is the reason I built my own car hauler! It's 19-1/2 feet long, and 83" between the fenders, so I can, and have, hauled everything from a Viper to a Hudson to a '53 2-ton Dodge HHA flatbed truck, all with zero problems. I've got a bit over 30K miles on it since 2001, when a friend and I built it (he builds them professionally). It has a 5" C-channel frame with 4x3 angle crossmembers, spaced 18" apart, with a wood deck and metal dovetail. Ramps stow in the back.
It has 3500# 5-lug axles with 15" mods and 700-15 10-ply bias trailer tires on it, along with a Braden 6K# electric winch, wrap-tongue, overrun bar, battery tray, electric brakes, a 2" 7K# Bulldog coupler, 25K# trailer jack, and wiring-in-conduit throughout. Also, I recently upgraded to LED lighting.
1965 F250 on my hauler:0 -
Used a U-haul trailer to take my 53 Hornet coupe to Bill Albright's Vintage Coach for restoration from Ventura county. I used my 2004 GMC sierra 1/2 ton pickup, The truck bed was loaded with a 308 twin H, tranny,loads of parts no issues. A little hairy coming down the conejo grade (6 % grade I think) when the beautiful restoration was complete.0
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FYI
I have used UHaul Trailers to haul a few different model Hudson's home using an older 1/2 ton Ford pickup. UHaul apparently raised their standards (because of newer 1/2 ton trucks weaker suspension) so I told them I had a 3/4 ton. Some Hudsons were a tight fit having to crawl thru the window while the older Cars had more room.0 -
Thanks to all for the qreat information provided. I will take all to heart. My son and I are now considering having a custom trailer built. So, again Thanks to all. Very good information.0
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I went a bit different route. I purchased a Chevrolet heavy half with a special towing package. It is engineered and rated for the enclosed trailer that I have. I went with the enclosed trailer because it also seconds as a storage shed. I have pulled UHals with my truck with light loads and in my opinion they are not engineered for the larger cars that we love. I do have to admit that my next tow truck will be a one ton "dualie." However, I have never had any problems with my truck and trailer.0
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People will endanger their own lives and the lives of those around them, I know, I turn them away every day. It isn't a matter of having the power to pull it's having the brakes to stop and the suspension to handle the load. No rental guy worth his salt rents without checking the tow vehicle, you can tell me all day your truck is 3/4 ton but if I don't see it for myself you can't rent. When I was younger and dumber I did a lot of towing with not enough vehicle and had some really hairy rides, I'm glad I never killed any one. Brownie, a heavy half is still a half ton truck and it isn't up to the job.
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Harry Hill wrote:People will endanger their own lives and the lives of those around them, I know, I turn them away every day. It isn't a matter of having the power to pull it's having the brakes to stop and the suspension to handle the load. No rental guy worth his salt rents without checking the tow vehicle, you can tell me all day your truck is 3/4 ton but if I don't see it for myself you can't rent. When I was younger and dumber I did a lot of towing with not enough vehicle and had some really hairy rides, I'm glad I never killed any one. Brownie, a heavy half is still a half ton truck and it isn't up to the job.
Harry
I don't agree with that. I think any half ton long wheelbase truck or suburban will tow a car on a trailer safely as long as:
You position the car with about 400-500 lbs of tongue weight
The trailer had good electric brakes and adjustable controller
Tires, hitch, chains, straps, vehicle and trailer all maintained and in good shape and rated for the load.
Alot of half ton trucks today are rated to tow 10000 lbs and have lots of engine, 4 wheel discs and very heavy frames. Probably lots stronger than older 3/4 and 1 ton PUs.0 -
I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The tow ratings you see on your half ton are determined using fifth wheel trailers loaded correctly, not frame hitch or bumper hitch set ups. If the world were perfect though and people didn't try to pull too fast and left plenty of room in front of them and would downshift going down hills a half ton truck would probably work okay. But as witnessed even on this list people are trying to tow at over safe rates of speed and crowding traffic and generally towing as though their is no weight behind them.
Harry0 -
I would certainly agree the biggest safety factor is the common sense and skill of the person driving the tow vehicle0
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Both things are sadly missing in todays society. No one wants to take responsibility for their actions.
Harry0 -
I respect your opinion, but tell me again where it is you got your engineering degree?
Harry Hill wrote:People will endanger their own lives and the lives of those around them, I know, I turn them away every day. It isn't a matter of having the power to pull it's having the brakes to stop and the suspension to handle the load. No rental guy worth his salt rents without checking the tow vehicle, you can tell me all day your truck is 3/4 ton but if I don't see it for myself you can't rent. When I was younger and dumber I did a lot of towing with not enough vehicle and had some really hairy rides, I'm glad I never killed any one. Brownie, a heavy half is still a half ton truck and it isn't up to the job.
Harry0
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