can rear stepdown drum be pulled w/ slide hammer

hoggyrubber
hoggyrubber Expert Adviser
edited November -1 in HUDSON
i have one of those drum puller attachments that fit on my slide hammer. can i use it to remove the rear drum? i see in the shop manual it uses a specific puller, but i don't have one. i also read you can use a chrysler drum but i don't have one of those either. can i just bolt this to the drum using the lug bolts and chug it off after i take the axle nut off without hurting threads on drum or lug bolts? thanks, hr

Comments

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    hr, You might be able to do that but it will take a lot of slapping if the drum has been on for some time. Your best bet is to try to locate a double headed knock off drum puller. A good wack with a hammer and it usually comes right off. The drums are on very tightly so be prepared to work on them.Might try a tool rental place or maybe someone in the club who is near you may loan a puller to you.. Where do you live?
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Or, you might look around to find one of those "older garages", and offer them money to rent their puller. Which they'll probably be happy to rent you, since they haven't used it for years. Newer shops may not have one.



    Hudzilla's suggestion is probably best -- look in your Club roster and find the nearest HET members, and give 'em a ring. They may either loan you one or know whereabouts you can go to find one locally.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    hoggyrubber wrote:
    i have one of those drum puller attachments that fit on my slide hammer. can i use it to remove the rear drum? i see in the shop manual it uses a specific puller, but i don't have one. i also read you can use a chrysler drum but i don't have one of those either. can i just bolt this to the drum using the lug bolts and chug it off after i take the axle nut off without hurting threads on drum or lug bolts? thanks, hr
    DON'T TRY TO USE THAT SLIDING HAMMER, YOU WILL RUIN THE BEARING AND SEAL THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO REPLACE ALL. WALT.
  • jjbubaboy
    jjbubaboy Senior Contributor
    Hey Hoggy,

    Autozone ( if you have one of those) has an inexpensive puller that will bolt to the drum and screws down from the center to pop them off. Be SURE to leave the nut on the end when you do it so it wont fly off on ya.

    If you screw down and it doesnt give, walk away for a while and come back, sometimes they will pop on their own.

    Good luck,

    T Jeff
  • hoggyrubber
    hoggyrubber Expert Adviser
    thank you every one. i will not try to use the slide hammer! i do have several autozones in town so i will check into that puller. i guess i have never pulled one of these types of drums so i am in uncharted teritory for me. i can spring for the auto zone one no problem, i live in springfield, mo and would rather buy than borrow anyway since i need to pull them from my parts car and the one i am working on as well. is the autozone one just called a drum puller? when you screw the center in does it contact the axle nut or where? thanks, hr
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    The center bolt should contact the center of the axle. As bubbaboy said be sure to leave the nut on the axle (backed out till flush with the end of the axle) to prevent the drum from popping off into your lap.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Hey y'all,



    This is great! I've been call'n around look'n for the same thing, now I'll run to Autozone. Yippieeeeeeeee!
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Here is the AutoZone puller, I believe: not quite as beefy as one might hope, but maybe it will work. I checked one website which says that they rent these out; it might be good to rent it just to see if it really works, then buy one if it does.

    HPIM2704.JPG



    Here is what the "real thing" looks like:



    dp-3.jpg
  • hoggyrubber
    hoggyrubber Expert Adviser
    that autozone one looks a lot like the attachment for my slide hammer. i may be able just to use it with a unf bolt and no hammer. i recognize the "oem" brand on it from autozone. the think that really annoys me is i used to have one of those in the lower picture years ago. i got it in a bunch of stuff at a auction. it was big and i thought "is this for a tractor, i'll never use this". i flat out need to be beat!
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    Hi Hudson Dave here . If the car runs the easy way is to take out the key remove the nut and washer reinstall the nut and key NO washer Drive it around the block Left and right when you get back you will here klunk klunk klunk that means there loose :eek: If that dosn't do it u-turns in both directions will do the trick .:rolleyes: . Just like geting a head loses on the flat heads loosen all the head bolts just enough that the bolts are not touching, start it up and pop, up comes the head and the motor stops :eek::eek: work cool :)Hudson Dave
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    If the hub is really tight on the axle the auto zone puller is a waste of time and cost. If I read the correct size of the wrench at 3/4 then the puller is not heavy enough to do the job. A couple of our Mid South members have bought hub pullers from J.C.Whitney that will do the job. MPP TOOLS also has a good one.
  • Huddy42
    Huddy42 Senior Contributor
    Here is a hub puller my Dad made many years ago, very sturdy and has never failed to loosen a hub yet, I would like a $ for every hub this unit has removed. He was an engineer by trade so that tells the story. As you can see many different bolt pattens to suit a variety of makes .
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    hoggyrubber wrote:
    i have one of those drum puller attachments that fit on my slide hammer. can i use it to remove the rear drum? i see in the shop manual it uses a specific puller, but i don't have one. i also read you can use a chrysler drum but i don't have one of those either. can i just bolt this to the drum using the lug bolts and chug it off after i take the axle nut off without hurting threads on drum or lug bolts? thanks, hr
    Make sure you install 3 bolts, and tight, as 2 will strip the threads in your drum. Walt.
  • tigermoth
    tigermoth Expert Adviser
    i've used hudson dave's "loosen and drive" technique. no puller necessary (unless the car isn't driveable or you like collecting tools...) regards, tom
  • Jon B
    Jon B Administrator
    Once you have tightened the puller considerably, you might try striking the perimeter of the brake drum with a hammer, to set up a vibration. Work your way around the perimeter with the hammer. With all the tension being applied by the puller, the vibration may just be all that you need to break it loose.
  • bob ward
    bob ward Senior Contributor
    If you do need to use a puller to remove your stepdown rear hubs, most of the modern ones offered for sale are just too light.



    You need to have a really stout one with nothing less than a 1 1/2" centre bolt.



    Most hire centres can help out if you don't want to buy one. Nowadays they all seem to have the hydraulic version of the hub puller, which is probably the better way to go.
  • hoggyrubber
    hoggyrubber Expert Adviser
    i got the drum off no probems. because someone had already took it off to steal the $%$%$#$$ brake parts off before i bought it. oh well at least its a parts car. i will address the ones on the real car when i get that far. thanks, hr
  • mars55
    mars55 Senior Contributor
    If necessary, all the brake hardware for stepdowns is available from Raybestos.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User]
    I have found that an old mid sixties Chrysler axle works best. You pop the 5 studs out and get 5 hardened 4 inch bolts at your local hardware store. The Chrysler axle is the same bolt pattern Attach the axle head to the drum and start tightening down the bolts until you here the drum pop. Then it should come off easily.



    Glenn
  • PAULARGETYPE
    PAULARGETYPE Senior Contributor
    HERE ARE PHOTOS OF HOW TO USE A WHEEL PULLER ON A HUDSONS REAR DRUMS



    http://hudsonpix.multiply.com/photos/album/52/REAR_WHEEL_PULLER
This discussion has been closed.

Categories

In this Discussion