Hudson Hornet License Plate Frames

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I'm still looking for quotes on production but these will run about $50.00 a pop. Atleast it gives a good idea of what you can expect. These are top quality chrome plated brass....

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nhp1127 wrote:

I'm still looking for quotes on production but these will run about $50.00 a pop. Atleast it gives a good idea of what you can expect. These are top quality chrome plated brass....

Cool. I still want 'em.

harry54

i'll take 4

RL Chilton

Still interested, Niels. If you can get them in time for the Nat'l. and you are going, I'm sure you could sell just about all you will have.

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I've got to find some competitive vendors. Otherwise it will be too expensive to order a bunch just to sit on. I'll keep you posted. Niels

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Contact O'Brien Truckers in Charlton Mass

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Sgnl50 wrote:

Contact O'Brien Truckers in Charlton Mass

They were very nice but no such luck. I am looking into a couple more places.

Unknown

nhp1127 - I have that same license plate on my car, except Florida!

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I've gotten the price down to $35.00, however, I just noticed that to mount these on a stepdown, the license plate mounts to the car using the bottom two holes on the license plate.... soooo, I have to pick a slightly different frame that has the holes on the bottom. I'll post the changes when finalized.



P.S. Poncho68- Cool!

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nhp1127 wrote:

I've gotten the price down to $35.00, however, I just noticed that to mount these on a stepdown, the license plate mounts to the car using the bottom two holes on the license plate.... soooo, I have to pick a slightly different frame that has the holes on the bottom. I'll post the changes when finalized.



P.S. Poncho68- Cool!

Neils,



You can count on me for at least one license plate mount and possibly two.



Ray



P.S. did you ever find stainless steel beltline pieces for quarter panel?

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Here is another version with the mounting holes on the bottom. There is not as much space for lettering on the bottom and I want large lettering so to be seen. Any other suggestions for the bottom? Otherwise, if you approve, I'll order the first 10 units. Niels

RL Chilton

If I see your car and YOUR license frame says "Chicks dig me . . ." on the bottom, I'll be upset that I didn't get that version (hey, every little bit helps):D



No, "Champions" is great. Can't think of something better at the moment.

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I'd stick with the "NASCAR Champions" as that tells people where Hudsons have earned the title of "Champions".

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It's the same area size- here is the change

RL Chilton

I vote for the latest one.

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Let me look at that.....

[Deleted User]

Try asking the vendor if the two-hole frame can be rotated 180 degrees (holes on the bottom), then engraved. Shouldn't matter, holes are the same on the bottom of the license plate as they are on the top, and the engraving machine shouldn't know the difference either...

That way, you get the bigger letters on the top (NASCAR Champions), and still have the same room for "Hudson Hornet" at the bottom.

The vendor said he can do it. So, It will say "NASCAR Champions" on top and "HUDSON HORNET" on the bottom. I'm going to put in the first order for fourteen on Monday. The cost on these are $35.00 each- this is my cost, there is no mark up so no bellyaching. I will need to add the cost for shipping plus $2.00 to your location aswell.

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nhp1127 wrote:

The vendor said he can do it. So, It will say "NASCAR Champions" on top and "HUDSON HORNET" on the bottom. I'm going to put in the first order for fourteen on Monday. The cost on these are $35.00 each- this is my cost, there is no mark up so no bellyaching. I will need to add the cost for shipping plus $2.00 to your location aswell.

Please add two for me.



Thanks,



Ray



kada9528@cox.net

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Plates are ordered. I'll post pic's when they arrive.

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1049superg wrote:

I'd stick with the "NASCAR Champions" as that tells people where Hudsons have earned the title of "Champions".

What ever you do, do not use the word NASCAR, as they will take you to court for using their name with out permission. Then they will demand a royalty on every set sold and it could be the full amount. Walt.

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walt's garage-53 wrote:

What ever you do, do not use the word NASCAR, as they will take you to court for using their name with out permission. Then they will demand a royalty on every set sold and it could be the full amount. Walt.

Walt, if they want to spent a few hundred thousand dollars on legal fees on collecting royalties on 10 to 15 Hudson license plate frames then they can stand in line with GM and Chrysler. Bring it on.

Unknown

walt's garage-53 wrote:

What ever you do, do not use the word NASCAR, as they will take you to court for using their name with out permission. Then they will demand a royalty on every set sold and it could be the full amount. Walt.

Now, now, the sky is not falling. In talking to many car manufacturers in Detroit over the years on behalf of car clubs, they've all informed me that fees for use of trademarked names are waived for car clubs. At most, you might have to fill out a form they'll glady send you.

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nhp1127 wrote:

Walt, if they want to spent a few hundred thousand dollars on legal fees on collecting royalties on 10 to 15 Hudson license plate frames then they can stand in line with GM and Chrysler. Bring it on.

You tell 'um.

Lee ODell

nhp1127 wrote:

The vendor said he can do it. So, It will say "NASCAR Champions" on top and "HUDSON HORNET" on the bottom. I'm going to put in the first order for fourteen on Monday. The cost on these are $35.00 each- this is my cost, there is no mark up so no bellyaching. I will need to add the cost for shipping plus $2.00 to your location aswell.

I will take two. Thanks. Lee

hudsontech

nhp1127 wrote:

The vendor said he can do it. So, It will say "NASCAR Champions" on top and "HUDSON HORNET" on the bottom. I'm going to put in the first order for fourteen on Monday. The cost on these are $35.00 each- this is my cost, there is no mark up so no bellyaching. I will need to add the cost for shipping plus $2.00 to your location aswell.

Sorry to toss water on your project - but you can't use "NASCAR" without permission from NASCAR. It's copyrighted.



Hudsonly,

Alex Burr

Memphis, TN

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hudsontech wrote:

Sorry to toss water on your project - but you can't use "NASCAR" without permission from NASCAR. It's copyrighted.



Hudsonly,

Alex Burr

Memphis, TN

Thanks Alex, but plates are ordered. You forget, chicks dig me AND I'm a rebel.



If I end up making more then I will attempt to get some sort dispensation from them.

RL Chilton

Way to go, Niels!

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Remember when NASCAR sends its guys to get you when you speed ahead in your Hudson hang it high in the curve and give it gas, let your door rub the rail if you have to but don't let them catch you.



Never and I mean never take your foot off the gas......:D

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hudsontech wrote:

Sorry to toss water on your project - but you can't use "NASCAR" without permission from NASCAR. It's copyrighted.



Hudsonly,

Alex Burr

Memphis, TN

So are Hudson, Essex, Terraplane, Hornet, Wasp and everything else Hudson that you are reproducing and selling. Do you have authorization from Chrysler to use the Hudson property they own? Let us know if they come knocking at your door and we'll come and save you.



If this is a hobby project and not a commercial interest seeking to profit financially from the use of a trademarked name, I doubt NASCAR would care. Besides, saying that Hudson was a NASCAR champion is a matter of fact. Therefore, Hudson has already paid the royalties to be a NASCAR sponsor and use their acronym in advertising. If permission were to be required, it would probably have to come from Chysler.

hudsontech

There is a fine line here - I'm not making a direct copy of any item. I'll give you an example.



There was a vendor selling upholstery kits for older Chrysler cars. Chrysler did send legal beagles after him. However, his supplier, and I'm using rough figures here because I don't recall the exact, told him not to worry. The supplier was stiching the material using 16 threads per inch; Chrylser was using 18 or 20 tpi. The difference made the repro NOT a direct copy.



Same with what I do. The type font is different from original, the formatting is different - it's not a direct copy. As I say, it is a fine line. And in any event I've given up selling the material, except for the General Information Handbook, and that's my own creation.



With the NASCAR logo, I don't know how you could work around that - NASCAR is NASCAR and there ain't no way you can get around that. I do think I might contact NASCAR and find out just what I could or couldn't do. They might even endorse the project.



Hudsonly,

Alex Burr

Memphis, TN

Unknown

Still, aren't you using info that is owned by others?



I like the upholstery example. It shows how fruitless persuing low buck Mom and Pop operations really is.



In your case, I wouldn't be worried about reselling info. You're just recouping the costs you incur to get info to car owners so they may enjoy it as part of the hobby, right? After all, you're just sharing info that you have bought/already own, right?



If the people at NASCAR have nothing better to do with their time and money, they could make a mountain out of any mole hill. However, I doubt they have the desire to waste thousands of dollars, not to mention risking possible bad publicity, to stomp on "car guys" who have used their name on a few license plate frames. For all they know, NaScAr could be in reference to the elements of (Na - sodium, Sc - scandium and Ar - argon) that all Hudson lovers thrive on.



I could understand the threat of litigation if someone were making thousands of items, using copyright or trademark protected property without license, to reap untold profits. That's not the case here.