A HUDSON INVADER ENGINE ON EBAY
PAULARGETYPE
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That would be a nice addition to any Hudson collectors stash...Dr Doug here is your chance.....0
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That is not a bad price. Might be a little hard to find parts to get it running, but would be worth it (until the neighbors 12 streets away called the cops because of the noise.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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I'd like to have that. And it is a GREAT price. What a fun project to restore!0
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Has anyone ever tried to shoe-horn one of these into a car...preferably a stepdown? I'd love to see that done!0
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I do not think it would fit, too long. Not to mention its weight and it is probably water cooled as being a marine engine... unless I am wrong about that.0
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Yes it has been done......................
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Russ, all you have to do is figure out (1) how to haul it home and (2) where to put it. Having that thing would be like having the proverbial elephant in the kitchen.
One potential bomb would be salt water corrosion - if it was used in salt water when it was in the 40 foot yacht. If (and that's a big IF) the previous owners, ie the yacht it came out of) used the corrosion preventatives (zincs) and IF it was properly maintained then somebody would have a reasonable shot at restoring it. The next problem is where the hell do you get parts for it.
I spent years on salt water ships and some of those cutters were WWII vintage (I'm talking 1960's here when I served on them). Tons of bronze piping and fittings and regularly replacing zinc anti-corrosion plugs, etc. None of the cutters engines fell apart due to corrosion - tho it was a question of how long we were going to run the things before they just up and died of old age. Coasties tended to get nervous around museum people.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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So much for putting it in a jet
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charles4d - theoretically you can put anything in anything if you put your mind to it.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0 -
I have a pretty good stash of the INVADER 168 navy landing craft engines if any one wants one. I am 40 miles E. of Amarillo. These are the only ones I know of in the southwest USA. They were rebuilt by the Navy in Calif. in 1949, crated and are still in the crates. but the crates now are getting pretty fragile. Also have about a dozen of the complete overhaul gasket sets {over 100 gaskets in each set} including 5 ft. long copper head gasket..would take $1200 for one engine and throw in a OH gasket set...each engine weighs 2500 lbs. and are mostly alum. alloy and brass and copper..I would think the scrap out price would be over $5000 -
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My thoughts on the matter over the past 10 years or so was to find one and restore only to the degree of a static display, much like the one in Ypsilanti. I think that the one on E-Bay warrants a level of restoration of that kind, due to it's current condition. I believe you are right Alex. Unless you had several engines to use as parts to build one good one, you might be out of luck (or not financially smart!) in building a running or serviceable engine.
On that note, finding one that cargray has is the proverbial golden egg: engines already rebuilt and in the "crate", so to speak. An engine like that could be more than a static display, probably fairly easy. Be cool just to take one to Hudson meets and fire it up for the hell of it. Been done before, hasn't it?
Where does one find a "stash" of Invader engines? I'm sure there's an interesting story behind that one!
And Roger, WTF??? what's the scoop?0 -
Russ, yes, there was an Invader at the 1st Wichita Naional in what, 1990, somewhere around there. As I posted on another thread the guy fired that thing up and I swear you could have heard it in Denver!!!! Sure cleaned out the sinuses for sure.
I've seen that picture Roger posted somewhere or other. To get an idea of size note the lady standing next to it. Leno would have a blast with that monster.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0 -
I don't recall where I got that photo from. The vehicle was still in the construction stage as you may be able to tell. As I remember the story with it the owner of a Invader engine was asking himself what to do with it ? Just as you guys were doing now and he could not find anything big enough to put it in.
So he started out to make something that would hold it. At the time of the photo I don't think it had a drive shaft or transmission or steering yet,
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I did a little more digging and it seems it was for sale on Ebay at one time . That is probably where I got these from,
Roger0 -
Wasn't that car with the Invador engine for sale a year or so ago. I seem to remember seeing that picture then.
Lee O'Dell
It seems Roger and I remembered this about the same time.
I would want some protection from that chain drive when it let go.0 -
This would get Geoff's mind going,
now what pistons can I find to throw at that sucker and some bearings) 0 -
There has been a Merlin V12 shoehorned into a 1955 Chevy. Granted, it's body is over a custom space-frame, but it's still a Merlin powered '55!0
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My neighbor has an incredible collection of WWII power...
And of course Hudson was also producing pistons for the Wright Cyclone engines.
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Such a sweet sound they make in this FM-2 Wildcat." />
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If anybody is curious about the "FM-2" Wildcat designation these were the F4F Grumman Wildcats built by General Motors. F = Fighter, M = designation for General Motors.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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http://jalopnik.com/5302246/awesome-defined-the-10+liter-radial+engined-goggomobil
This is a bout as crazy as the Invader project,
Roger0 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f2V7B7-gdRA
Here is a video of it that works,
Roger>- 0 -
There was a joke about the Goggomobil and its low horsepower, What do you do when you stop a Goggomobil at a traffic light and can't get it moving when the light turns green? You get out and push it off the piece of gum in the street it's stuck to.
Awesome sound, that radial turning up. All that smoke is common to radial engines. Comes from oil leaking down into the bottom cylinders. Which is why aircrews of radial engine airplanes would turn the propeller over by hand before starting. To clear the oil out of those bottom cylinders.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
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I don't know what keeps the car from flipping over when he rev's it up like that. You would think that huge engine would need to be bolted down to something solid .
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Well maybe I should have said I have a "small" stash of INVADER engines. { actually only FOUR} I bought these four at a farm auction about twenty-thirty years ago, to keep them from being sold to a scrap dealer. they were in crates with a stack of the overhaul gasket sets laying on top of them. The story goes, a farmer at Hartley Texas bought them at a military surplus place in southern Calf. in early fifties. He put one in service on an irrigation well, and intended the other four as replacements as they wore out..Well he ran the first engine for 17 years and never needed the others so they just sat in his barn. He said that old engine just ran and ran and wouldnt quit. He finally had to replace it with a more fuel efficient type when fuel prices got so expensive..I have held out hopes a HET member would like to have one of them and I want to keep one. Have had a few chances to sell to a buyer in the northwest, but shipping cost was just too much. The one at Wichita Nat. was Dale Matlocks. I sold him some of the gaskets.0
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I'd like to take one for display at least but need to build my museum first to put one in. Of heck maybe I'll find a surplus PT boat I can terrorize the Great Lakes in. LOL0
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@ Cargray, Lol. I'd say four is a great stash and your to be commended for saving them from the scrappers. Kermit Weeks and his "Fantasy of Flight" attraction just operate on a larger scale.
So to carry on with the Hudson and 'marine' theme I'll share that Kermit will be heading to Houston next month to bring back Howard Hughes 1937 Sikorsky S-43 flying boat. And whats that got to do with Hudson? Well,this is really a stretch but...
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I'd love to have one. I don't have a clue what I'd do with it but I'm the kind of nut who likes to preserve old stuff just because it's part of history.
I saw that the EAA had a 4360 for sale a while back but I was too late to see how much they wanted for it. Probably just as well - that would be even less practical than an Invader.0 -
Well, there was, back in 1942, the Lockheed A-29, nickname Hudson, light bomber. Might be a neat addition to the back yard - and you could fly it to the Nationals. Might have a little trouble getting from the airport to the meet, but where there's a will there's a way. I could be wrong but I think Hudson built some pieces for it.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0
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