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Not completely sure. But I can tell you that the commercial fenders are different than the car fenders. Commercial ones had a bigger wheel opening, for one.0
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Here is a pic of the fender I am wondering about,it just looks odd.The 46-47 trucks have a larger opening.0
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Additionally, the passenger car fenders were curved along the inside to follow the curved contour of the body whereas the pick-up box is straight sided so you will find a tapered filler piece on the pick-ups to reshape the passenger car fender to fit the box.....at least mine are.
Nice truck. I wish mine were half as good.
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Look like car fenders to me. Home made running boards too.0
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I was thinking the same thing.0
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That hood do not belong on that truck. That is a Hudson 8 hood, 1941. Walt.0
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The truck in the picture is mine 40 1/2 and 3/4 are the same,not sure but i think 40 was a year by its self,the hood is the right one for a 1940 model 48 Ron0
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Can an owner of a 40 post a pic of the rear fender looking from the side to show a good view of the opening?
Was the 40 3/4 ton on a 125 WB?0 -
I just spent a few moments over on the online library in the 1940 Hudson Group Parts Book. The following:
140136/37 - Rear Fender, Models 40-48 Pickup
1927-1950 Numerical Parts Interchange Record says Model 41 uses 140136/37
140030/31 Rear Fender (L/R) 40P-41-44-45Sed-2Sed-43-47-48Sed-48CA
140040/41 - Rear Fender 40P-41-44VicCpe-3Cpe, CvCp, CvSed
There are more listings in the 40 parts books for cars with, or without, running boards, etc.
The Model 48's were on a 125" wb.
Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN0 -
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FENDERS WITH OUR WITH OUT RUNNING BOARDS IS THE HOLES FOR THE RUNNING BOARDS TO MOUNT TO THE FENDERS THE PARTS THE SAME JUST A FEW HOLES TO DRILL OR FILL IN0
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The boxes from 41-47 must be different than 40 than because the WB is 3" longer.
Does anyone know where the 3" was added?
Trying to figure out if boxes/fenders are interchangeable if originals are too far gone.0 -
Did Hudson use the car frames or make new ones the same lengths.The factory must have used the front from the car and attached the back cab section to it.I wonder if there are any rear cab sections out there that were not used?
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Does anyone know of a truck being made from a 4door car if a box with good fenders was found?0
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I was just looking at my Dads '40 pick-up this morning. You can still see the rear floor pan that was cut. The bed was put over the top of it. It looks like it was cut right in front of where the back seat was.0
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The front fenders are NOT the same from a short to long wheel base truck. They are different where they mount to the cowl.
All of the trucks were made from four door cars, and the cab back attatched. That's why the doors are so small. The floors were cut off an inch or so past the back of the cab. Just enough to fill the gap between the cab and bed, so you don't see the road when looking between the bed and cab.
The above red truck in question looks to be home made to me. It's got car fenders, home made running boards. Rockers that go all the way back to the fender. They should stop at the bed. And the filler panel at the front bottom of the bed, above the running board doesn't look right either. I suspect if you look at the underside of the floors, that the floor is going to be a foot or two past the back of the cab, it should only be an inch or so.0 -
The running boards are not home made and the rest of the truck is also factory as far as i know Ron0
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Hudson did sell thru their dealers the rear section of the pickup cab. It simply attached at the rear of the C pillar and to the roof at the cut-off. I just missed buying one from a collector here in Lima OH many years ago, but someone from Tennessee beat me to it - Price was $ 60.00 and it was still in the factory crate !
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Here is a shot of a 40 not sure if it is 1/2 or 3/4 ton.Check out the shape of the rear fenders how they bulge out.
Thats a nice looking 39 above.0 -
Well, what got me wondering if I might be wrong is looking at the pictures of the cab back in bare metal. It looks professionally done. No folded over seam, either way.
As far as the floors. They are as I suspected, a foot or two past the back of the cab. That is because the rockers run back that far and need the support of the floor. hmm? I'd like to see the fenders. See how they were changed to mount to the flat sides of the truck bed. If it looks factory or home made. But I suppose the "proof" of the factory originality is if you can find another one that was constructed in this manner? Or photos or a sales ad.
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Here is the picture I was talking about. No folded over seam either way. I have seen that before. Also what appears to be a lap joint up over the roof. Which is how every truck I've ever seen has been. ...Leaded over, as you would expect the factory would do. I would like to see the underside of that roof to make sure I'm right about what I'm assuming is a factory type joint.0
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Interesting, in the above three trucks. The red truck, the black and white drawing, and the taupe brown truck all look to have that skinny edged, wide running board.
We need to see another 40 truck, specifically that area below the front of the bed, and running board/rocker area.0 -
For info. here is a pic of a 42 truck showing the rocker panel and where is ends.The separate panel under the box attaches to the running board.
Every year there must have been running changes using up old stock etc.
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48Sed, That is how my 47 rocker panel and box panel is also made except my running board has a 1/2" gap between running board and fender and does not have the trim on the edge.
Lee O'Dell0 -
The hood on the pick up is not the correct hood. The side lights go straight back on all pick ups. The hood is for the Hudson Big Boy Sedan, for taxi use, 1940 model 48P. Only year for this style hood. Walt.0
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I have to agree with you Doc. Up until this thread started I guess I had never really seen a '40 truck. Plenty of '41-'47's, but no '40's. None that I can remember.
Anyone have a decent side view picture of a different '40 pick-up?0 -
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Some pics show the smaller wheel well opening and others the larger opening on the rear fenders.I think some trucks had the convertible/coupe fenders installed?0
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Hello,
I think the photo that "lostmind" posted is a 1941 Hudson. In the link he posted, there are some 1940 Hudson pickups shown. To me the easiest way to tell the difference is that the pickups from 1941-on had the door handles in line with the beltline trim, while the 1940 pickup has the door handle separate and below the beltline trim.
I have read that the the parts books show no direct interchangeability due to the changes that took place between the 1940 and 1941 models.
Take care,
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Here is a good pic showing a 40 truck and it looks stock.Must of used up old stock rear fenders
as some trucks do have different ones?0
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