owner of this car?

paulrhd29nz

Some one on another form is looking for the owner of this car, it was at the 09 Nationals.
Any one know?

oldhudsons

I will look at my original pic of the one on the left, blow it up in Picasa, & see if I can read the owner's name on the sign on the windshield.

oldhudsons

It looks like: Clem Lauer Metterberg, Mn.
and it has '12 Minn. plates on it. See if he's in the Roster.
Here's 2 other photos I took of it.

PAULARGETYPE

MIGHT IT BE THE LATE CHARLES REGNERUS CAR HIS WIFE VIRGINIA AND HER BOYS JOHN AND KEN STILL OWN IT THERE IN THE CLUB AND WERE AT THE NATIONAL LAST YEAR

Jon B

This 1912 Mile-A-Minute roadster, Chassis no. 23074, Engine no. KK 13349, changed hands at the The Greenwich Concours d'Elegance Collectors' Motorcars and Automobilia auction on June 7, 2009. The selling price (including commission) was $106,470. I do not know who bought the car, nor who was the seller. I assume that the buyers subsequently displayed it at the H-E-T National later that summer. The Minnesota plates appear to have been on the car during the auction, so there is no reason to believe that the buyers live in Minnesota.

You can read more about the car here: bonhams.com/auctions/17320/lot/260/

Here is an excerpt from the auction company's description of the car:

This extremely rare Mile-A-Minute Roadster was retrieved from a barn in New York state by H. Pierson Mapes in the late 1940s. H. Pierson Mapes, was an early exponent of the car collecting movement and father of Pierson G. Mapes, the well-known former president of NBC. According to a cast brass plaque on its firewall, the car was restored for H. Pierson Mapes by Joseph Murchio who the plaque proclaims was ‘America’s Foremost Authority on Antique Automobiles’, another early prominent car collector, whose automobile museum at Greenwood Lake, NY had opened in August 1945 and ran for more than two decades.

It is thought that Pierson Mapes sold the ‘Mile-a-Minute’ at a public auction conducted by Sotheby’s in the late 1950s or early 1960s, though the precise date of this is yet to be confirmed. However, it is known that the car passed from Mapes to Egbert Beney of Syosset, N.Y. at around that time, the current owner’s father bought the Hudson in 1987, it passing to him 6 years ago.

Over the course of its 30 year family ownership the Hudson has been shown at a few regional car gatherings, most recently at the Bogart’s Car Show in Apple Valley, MI in 2007.

The restoration of the car still dates back to H.Pierson Mapes time, giving the car a reassuring air of authenticity as well as an appealing patina of age. It is appropriately equipped with a period accessory monocle windshield, copies of owner’s manual, tools and period jack.


A similar red Mile-A-Minute is owned by the Forbes family in California.

(Pete B: I discovered all of this because of the high resolution photo you took of the dashboard at the '09 National -- and published above. I enlarged it on screen and was able to read the H. Pierson Mapes brass plate on the dash. So, the car at the National is definitely the one sold at the The Greenwich Concours d'Elegance auction. And the previous owners were from Minnesota, thus the Minn. historic plates on the car.)

oldhudsons

yes, must have brought it to the '09 National right after purchase; has to be the same car

oldhudsons

I saw another one many years ago in Salt Lake City at the "Price Collection" at the time of a meet there. We drove out to this "Collection" & as I recall they drove it out of this large building full of old cars - it was yellow with black pin-striping, quite stunning, with all the brass!
I've never heard of it, seen it, or have no idea what happened to that collection since.

Browniepetersen

The collection still exists and has added a few cars over the years. I sold him a 1935 Auburn Boat tail speedster almost thirty years ago. It is hard to gain access to the collection, but perhaps it might be worth a try this summer. I remember a yellow Stuz roadster but not the Hudson.

paulrhd29nz

Thank you all for your answers.

oldhudsons

I remember walking around thru the place Brownie but remember none of the other cars; think it was in conjunction with a Regional.

Browniepetersen

I just looked at the photos of his cars on his website. It shows the Roadster as a part of the Speed collection. I also notice a Italia in the collection. I sent them an email to schedule a visit I will post what I find out. I did also notice that he still has the Stuz as well as the Auburn. This should be a fun summer.....

[Deleted User]

Was this the car Bruce Morikubo owned years ago????

Browniepetersen

The roadster, the italia or the Auburn? Does not matter but I will be able to get some information once I see the two cars and check SN's.. The Auburn was a local northern Utah car.

oldhudsons

I think Bruce had an '09 not a '12 Mile-a-Minute.

oldhudsons

Brownie - if you look at Butler's book, bottom of p. 23, you'll see there was a big difference between the "Roadster" and the "Mile-a-Minute" and
Jon, according to him the so-called "monocle" windshield was std. equip. on the Mile-a-Minute.

Browniepetersen

Yea, I know, I am just too lazy to type "Mile-a-Minute."

Jon B

Pete: possibly the monocle defined the Mile-A-Minute, but I read somewhere (in the last three days) that the horizontal pan in front of the radiator was also a feature of the M-A-M. And this one (pictured above) seems to have one.

oldhudsons

Jon, well look at the bodies - the M-A-M has no doors! Just a "bare bones" body as to be a high performance/racing car, perhaps as a low cost competitor for the Stutz Bearcat, Mercer Raceabout crowd?

oldhudsons

and of course the Kissel Goldbug which came with golf bags on the right side of the body as std. equip.; always got a hoot out of cars with golf bag compartments, Hudson never made a body with them tho, boo hoo.

RL Chilton

I always did, too, Pete. I always wondered if any of the custom coachbuilders incorporated one on a Hudson . . . now I know.

oldhudsons

this is the only one I've ever seen, an Anderson bodied '26 Hudson coupe; you can see it has a number of other features not found on any Hudson bodied cp.

oldhudsons

a most handsome cp. with it's landau irons, padded top, GOLF BAG COMPARTMENT (LOL), and a large exterior visor that is an integral part of the body rather than just an appendage as on std. Hudson coupes

RL Chilton

Wow! Anderson, huh? That's certainly an unusual looking Hudson. That incorporated visor is interesting, as that didn't come standard on most high-production autos until several years later.

Anderson is a new one on me and not familiar with them. Not surprising, there was over a thousand custom coachbuilders back in the day. Check out this informational site on Anderson Custom Coachbuilder's, Pete:

http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/a/anderson_body/anderson_body.htm

About half-way down, just after the Dodge Cars, there is a picture of an Essex ('29, maybe?) Roadster, with . . . (wait for it!) . . . a Golf Door! Maybe it was a theme with them. I wonder how many Hudsons they worked on? Not many, surely.

Thanks for the post.

oldhudsons

RL - in the text it says it's a '27 Hudson roadster & certainly a very handsome car! Wonder where it is, never seen a photo of it or heard of it before.
It also mentions Paul's '26 coupe which I posted pics of above. He sent me a copy of the factory (ABC for Anderson Body Company which is on the cowl body plate) brochure which had photos of cars sitting around the factory most of which were Studebakers.
For those of you not interested in reading the article RL has the link for above, Anderson in Sidney, Ohio ~

RL Chilton

Managed to extract it . . . I think I've hi-jacked this thread!:

RL Chilton

That's a good-looking Roadster, right there!

bent metal

That white car is odd. Don't know what all was done to it. But it looks like a Series II '27 with the square bottom doors and belt line bead. Although the windshield is '28, and the fenders are '26.

oldhudsons

there a some other very interesting differences between these ABC bodies & what Hudson offered. You'll notice the cp. doesn't have "suicide doors" as did Hudsons. Take a look at the cowl lights, which are mounted on top of the cowl rather than being screwed onto the side of the cowl & hanging out. ABC cars have a much more substantial step plates to get into the rumble seat. Bumpers were not offered by the factory, became std. equip. in '29 & these 2 cars both have bumper but they aren't identical so perhaps an option or accessory item added by buyers.

oldhudsons

here's a good recent photo I took of a '29 H rd. at San Mateo.
Hudson had Briggs build their conv. cp. & rd. bodies in '29, don't think they offered a conv. cp. in '28, but know they did in '28; Briggs not a high quality body builder, Ford used them too ~

paulrhd29nz

The 29 Briggs Is Ivan's car. I notice in the photo there is still a drool make on the fender I left.

The white car is very interesting. As well as what Bent metal has said, The car does not have coupe rear fenders on it. They look like standard fenders, as the aft of the car looks to be square with the spare tire under a deck lid.?

oldhudsons

and here's the '28 Hudson rd. by comparison which I believe has a Murphy body?