For Sale ! 1952 Hornet Coupe

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here is a hornet that im parting with, it has all new brakes,and to boot a nice little power brake unit under the floor, with a gernade resevore. she needs an engine and trans,was 308 auto, i have the radiator and drive shaft,grill etc. the man that i got her from had it all road worthy and lost high gear in the trans,all i could get is what you see and what is mentioned. i also have a very nice guage cluster with clock and speedo, the wiring he installed is new. basically would make a real nice driver as is with a power plant, i want 4k for the car or trade up for the right original,4dr or 2 dr hudson.

[Deleted User]

Are you sure its a '54? The rear fenders look more like a '53 or earlier. Any rust in the framerails or rockers?

[Deleted User]

Judging from the dash and rear quarters, I'm thinking a '51, maybe?

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jsrail wrote:

Are you sure its a '54? The rear fenders look more like a '53 or earlier. Any rust in the framerails or rockers?

it is a 52,error was corrected. there is rust on rails of the frame.but is very repairable. under flat side of rocker has rust,typical hooh right side rust, and bottom rear corner of the door,never the less she is a hard to find coupe.

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gearhead wrote:

it is a 52,error was corrected. there is rust on rails of the frame.but is very repairable. under flat side of rocker has rust,typical hooh right side rust, and bottom rear corner of the door,never the less she is a hard to find coupe.

notice the 49 tail lights and the shaved chrome it is still a 52

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This car was recently on ebay.

[Deleted User]

Has been on Ebay several times, the grenade brake filler is a unique give-away.

Earlier, it was on ebay as a running vehicle w/308. The last time it was on Ebay, the engine/trans had been removed & was being offered in a separate auction.

so what you are saying is that because it had been listed with and without engine and on ebay,its not fresh meat anymore?means that noone needs or desires it?

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No, just indicating that what I have seen concerning this vehicle. Actually, coupes are quite desireable - more so than sedans, at least in my opinion.

Detractors on this particular car (besides the rust issues mentioned) are the 'rat rod' modifications that have been done - unless it happens to fit into a specific buyer's particular plans for the vehicle (or they are willing to take it on & attempt to restore it).

Put an SBC in it, throw a blanket on the seats - It will go for around $10k on Ebay... LOL!

it reallly needs the right buyer,restore it? noway! it has the right scent to become an attractive if you will rat rod? i would like to see a hotrod 308 in it. taking the hudson relm away from it would be a shame

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gearhead wrote:

it reallly needs the right buyer,restore it? noway! it has the right scent to become an attractive if you will rat rod? i would like to see a hotrod 308 in it. taking the hudson relm away from it would be a shame

unfortunately, someone already took the "hudson realm" away from this one. Other than being a "rare" 52 coupe, this car has little going for it. I guess a rolling, incomplete, rusty frame, starting point, missing every piece of hard to find 52-3 coupe stainless, makes it a great car to do. Just trying to find the side trim, and the window trim hurts my head in a similar way brain freeze from eating ice cream too quick, does. OUCH. This one deserves a SBC, and some rat rodder to enjoy.

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gearhead wrote:

it reallly needs the right buyer,restore it? noway! it has the right scent to become an attractive if you will rat rod? i would like to see a hotrod 308 in it. taking the hudson relm away from it would be a shame

I have another 52 coupe that i need to get home soon, she is down in oklahoma at the moment. that coupe is minimal rust, all there 308 with an od, needs to be restored. you guys would go goo goo over her.

J Spencer

gearhead wrote:

it is a 52,error was corrected. there is rust on rails of the frame.but is very repairable. under flat side of rocker has rust,typical hooh right side rust, and bottom rear corner of the door,never the less she is a hard to find coupe.

What is the serial # from the plate on the passengers side post ? That alone will identify exactly what it is. the tailights are Pacemaker, or Super series from 49-51. Pacemaker is a short wheelbase car. rear bumper is not 51 either. How come no photos of front of car ar engine compartment?.



If the engine compartment has an 'indentation' for the engine to set back into it is a Pacemaker. Oh, the rear window is just like my 51 Pacemaker coupe. Hornets had chrome trim around the glass and I do believe it was

slightly different shape.

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J Spencer wrote:

What is the serial # from the plate on the passengers side post ? That alone will identify exactly what it is. the tailights are Pacemaker, or Super series from 49-51. Pacemaker is a short wheelbase car. rear bumper is not 51 either. How come no photos of front of car ar engine compartment?.



If the engine compartment has an 'indentation' for the engine to set back into it is a Pacemaker. Oh, the rear window is just like my 51 Pacemaker coupe. Hornets had chrome trim around the glass and I do believe it was

slightly different shape.

it is a 52 hornet,the taillights have been changed,the old holes were filled,guesss the man liked the earlier lights.

bull_islander

Here's one of the previous threads and the last ebay auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52-HUDSON-HORNET-2DR-RAT-ROD-HOT-ROD-KUSTOM-PROJECT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ39405QQihZ009QQitemZ190051787436QQrdZ1

http://www.classiccar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7976&highlight=ebay+hornet+coupe

Walt-LA

Is the car titled as a '52 Hornet? Hornet would show as the model, and in the VIN code imprinted on the plate that is mounted between the door hinges on the vertical pillar at the cowl. Walt-LA

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Walt-LA wrote:

Is the car titled as a '52 Hornet? Hornet would show as the model, and in the VIN code imprinted on the plate that is mounted between the door hinges on the vertical pillar at the cowl. Walt-LA

ok guys,i bought the car from the man that had it on ebay and on the forum before,etc,etc,, i thought i would bring it up again and see if anyone had an interest in it, maybe the car does have some issues,ok we all know its not original, and yes it is a hornet the taillights have been changed and that has been said, and its shaved and it is black and the interior is ratted,and the handgernade has been seen beforeand yes it did have an engine in it at one time, i guess i will take her down and jam some small block in it and put her on the block. just checking guys just checking, i find that most people are freaked out nowadays about doing any kind of wrenching, either they are incompitant and have to have it done? or they cant see past the problems and bench talk it. i have done many many cars,either original,mild custom either requires work. lets say ambition. ok now i will set her next to my 46 caddy and the other 52 and do the car ,i will post her when done. then someone can pay the much bigger kahoona's ,because she goes voroooom vorooooom .

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gearhead wrote:

ok guys,i bought the car from the man that had it on ebay and on the forum before,etc,etc,, i thought i would bring it up again and see if anyone had an interest in it, maybe the car does have some issues,ok we all know its not original, and yes it is a hornet the taillights have been changed and that has been said, and its shaved and it is black and the interior is ratted,and the handgernade has been seen beforeand yes it did have an engine in it at one time, i guess i will take her down and jam some small block in it and put her on the block. just checking guys just checking, i find that most people are freaked out nowadays about doing any kind of wrenching, either they are incompitant and have to have it done? or they cant see past the problems and bench talk it. i have done many many cars,either original,mild custom either requires work. lets say ambition. ok now i will set her next to my 46 caddy and the other 52 and do the car ,i will post her when done. then someone can pay the much bigger kahoona's ,because she goes voroooom vorooooom .

I don't think this is much an issue of people not having the know-how or being generally "incompitant" but rather the fact that people here are less prone to inherit someone else's hack job on what might have been a really good and deserving car to restore.



On this car, now, you get the pleasure to hunt all of the hard to find items, fix all of the frame rot, find and rebuild a driveline, and on top of all of that, you get to reverse all of the "rat rod" features.



Personally, this thing deserves to be fixed up. Priced right for that special person looking for a coupe, not me though, I would prefer if it had the side trim, driveline, and window trim, and not so much of a custom flare.



I also think it is sad to accuse the readership of the board here in regards to lack of ambition, when the frank and honest opinion about a specific car is given. Look at some of the work these folks did to their cars. Look at their cars, projects, works in progress, I think the accusation of "lack of ambition" is not a fair assessment. Just because no one on here is jumping on the opportunity to purchase this vehicle, doesn't exhibit a lack of ambition, more so just common sense.



Sometimes bench talking it might be a good idea, I guess if you perhaps "bench talked" this one, maybe you wouldn't be here trying to pass this gem onto someone else now... Perhaps your buying decision in the first place might very well of been different.



I guess my question would be why are you considering selling?

SuperDave

Gearhead,

I'm curious about the power brake unit you mentioned. Can you post more details about that part? I don't mind making mods that don't show, but make the car easier to drive and perhaps safer.. thanks, Davew

Walt-LA

Gearhead,



Because there would be quite a lot of work involved, many of us would like to be assured that the car is indeed a '52 Hornet before considering it as a potential restoration project. Different states have different policies about registering untitled/lost title cars, thus it becomes a real issue. If I were to walk into my state's Department of Motor Vehicles to register it on the basis of "I know it's a '52 Hornet," they would look at me as though I'm nuts.



If you could answer my earleir question, (see quote in your last post) it would help me. 1. Do you have a valid title for the car, and what does it show it to be., and 2. Is there a VIN number on the right front door pillar, and what does it show? Thanks, Walt-LA

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Know whats neat about this?. Some yahoo pays too much for a piece of junk yard bait and is left standing there with his pants down to his ankles and no vasoline in site. Now he thinks the rest of us are yahoo's also and tells us about the other nice car thats on its way and what he is going to do. In the 55 plus years I have fooling with cars I have seen lots and lots of these guys come and thankfully go away

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tombia wrote:

Know whats neat about this?. Some yahoo pays too much for a piece of junk yard bait and is left standing there with his pants down to his ankles and no vasoline in site. Now he thinks the rest of us are yahoo's also and tells us about the other nice car thats on its way and what he is going to do. In the 55 plus years I have fooling with cars I have seen lots and lots of these guys come and thankfully go away

this is neat! im now a yahoo that has some junkyard bait? have my pants down to my knees? vasoline? hmmm actually i didnt do what has been done to this car EXCUSE ME! second i have seen cars sell for the same that have been worse,

i get a kick out of some people that can sit behind there computers and think they know it all, im not saying this car is cherry or that someone should put it back to original. i didnt put this car on here to be beat up with comments from some oldtimer that has mothballs in his shorts. i happen to have some excellent original cars,first paint,low low miles,from caddys, to buicks,even a 48 packard conv. i just bought this car because it had the look. and i can see thru problems on a car and make the best of it. now the only reason that i would part with this car is the fact that i have just bought 3 more low mile first paint cars, and the barn is way over filled, and thats fine if noone wants this car i will do it with a power plant and as planned. thats fine. but dont sit on your easy chair and put someone down . if you would be at a swapmeet and aproched me with those words you would have a huge problem, so old timer keep your words to yourself if you cant back them up!

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SuperDave wrote:

Gearhead,

I'm curious about the power brake unit you mentioned. Can you post more details about that part? I don't mind making mods that don't show, but make the car easier to drive and perhaps safer.. thanks, Davew

Hello Dave,well as far as the mans comments on the power brake unit .it came from a 38 ford rod,it must have been a custom after market thing,thats all i can say about it. it does fit real nice down under where the master would normally be.

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Walt-LA wrote:

Gearhead,



Because there would be quite a lot of work involved, many of us would like to be assured that the car is indeed a '52 Hornet before considering it as a potential restoration project. Different states have different policies about registering untitled/lost title cars, thus it becomes a real issue. If I were to walk into my state's Department of Motor Vehicles to register it on the basis of "I know it's a '52 Hornet," they would look at me as though I'm nuts.



If you could answer my earleir question, (see quote in your last post) it would help me. 1. Do you have a valid title for the car, and what does it show it to be., and 2. Is there a VIN number on the right front door pillar, and what does it show? Thanks, Walt-LA

Walt here is the # it is wis title 52 hornet , model 7 B and the # is 148492

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gearhead wrote:

this is neat! im now a yahoo that has some junkyard bait? have my pants down to my knees? vasoline? hmmm actually i didnt do what has been done to this car EXCUSE ME! second i have seen cars sell for the same that have been worse,

i get a kick out of some people that can sit behind there computers and think they know it all, im not saying this car is cherry or that someone should put it back to original. i didnt put this car on here to be beat up with comments from some oldtimer that has mothballs in his shorts. i happen to have some excellent original cars,first paint,low low miles,from caddys, to buicks,even a 48 packard conv. i just bought this car because it had the look. and i can see thru problems on a car and make the best of it. now the only reason that i would part with this car is the fact that i have just bought 3 more low mile first paint cars, and the barn is way over filled, and thats fine if noone wants this car i will do it with a power plant and as planned. thats fine. but dont sit on your easy chair and put someone down . if you would be at a swapmeet and aproched me with those words you would have a huge problem, so old timer keep your words to yourself if you cant back them up!

I like the line "I can see thru the problems of this car" does that mean the rust is that bad?



or "because it had the look" what look was that? :eek:



seriously though, when the discussion is getting to a point where you're throwing intimidation out there, in regards to other members, maybe you need to cool down a bit. This car got plenty of bad press before on the board, and you're probably not going about getting any kind of support in a good manner.



Besides, when Tombia used to be Tombpa he sold me some stuff, and treated me right, so for that, I got his back, and i'm young and I say Tom has no problem. :mad:



I hope you have success selling the hudson, that way, you can spend time on the packard and buick discussion sections of the classic cars forums board.



c'mon... this is getting pretty bad. :rolleyes:

Walt-LA

Gearhead,



Thanks, That's what I wanted to know. Walt-La

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Wow! And Hudsonkid didn't even start this one!

Terry

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!!!!I love it, I love it!!!! .

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I think the fellow has a valid point. This is a forum that has the potential to bring new members to the Hudson "Community". Instead of nearly accusing him of fraud and trying to peddle junk here, along with attacking his integrity, why not just ask him the questions that are pertinent to the situation and keep your opinions about the car and the seller to yourself. If I were an outsider and I came here to try and sell something and was treated this way, I wouldn't be happy either. If you don't like his car or the way it has been modified, then keep it to yourself. If you bought this car or any other car without seeing the car in person or had someone knowegable to inspect then you would be an idiot. Then if you wanted to present your opinion about the car or his integrity, you could tell him to his face. I have no opinion one way or another about the car or the fellow and won't until I meet him face to face and get to know him, and I certainly wouldn't tell him that I thought he was trying to fraud me or sell me junk. I would just shake his hand and bid him a Good Day. That would be the gentlemanly thing to do and I would walk off holding my head high. Why can't it be the same way here?
Bob

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I'd have to see the actual rust issue on this one, but I (of course) don't mind the SBC stuff! lol But I think $3,500 is way too much for this, at least for my blood. There is too much missing for many to pay that kind of cash for a stripped car, even a Hornet. But, man, I hope you get what you want for her. It just might be a bit tough.

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jsrail wrote:

I'd have to see the actual rust issue on this one, but I (of course) don't mind the SBC stuff! lol But I think $3,500 is way too much for this, at least for my blood. There is too much missing for many to pay that kind of cash for a stripped car, even a Hornet. But, man, I hope you get what you want for her. It just might be a bit tough.

jay, if it makes you feel any better, I would put a SBC in this one...

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52 kahuna wrote:

Wow! And Hudsonkid didn't even start this one!

Terry

c'mon Kahuna what do you take me for?

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hudsonkid wrote:

c'mon Kahuna what do you take me for?

Hey Hudsonkid, you know you thought the same thing, I just beat you to the key board on this one! We knew this was comming, the "board" was just too quiet over the weekend. (Holiday spirit and all.)



I think this car should be old school.... early Olds V8 (394?) tri-power and Hydro. You wouldn't need A/C if it has enough rust.... I'm just joking Gearhead (about the rust) Seeing as how my Hudson is a 4dr. I would take a look at this coupe if I was in the right part of the country.