How many Pickups in H.E.T. Club Roster

Lee ODell

I may have overlooked 1 or 2 but this is the count I came up with in the H.E.T. Club Roster. I expected to see more pre 1942 Hudson. This list includes Hudson,Terraplane and Essex Pickups world wide.
1923 1
1927 1
1929 3
1931 1
1934 1
1935 3
1936 8
1937 20
1938 3
1939 6
1940 4
1941 23
1942 7
1946 116
1947 136
1948 1
1949 2
1950 1
1952 2
Total 340 pickups listed in Roster
and
Fire Trucks 4
1922 1
1926 1
1927 1
1937 1

If you do not see your truck in roster feel free to add your PU to the count that missed the cut off date?

Plus:
I have 2 more 47s that missed publish cut off date.
My son Rick has a 47 cab and two rear fenders for a starter.
I know of 2 more club members 47 PUs not in roster.
That makes 5 more.

Lee O'Dell

dterry-2011

Who owns the 35-s, just wondering if mine was there, Terry in Redondo Beach.

VicTor Z

Hi Lee, Bent Metal's dad has a Hudson Pick-Bed made into a trailer, also has a Pick-up cab. So 2/3 + 1/3 = 1 Hudson Pickup.

PAULARGETYPE

LEE JACK HEISLERS SON HAS HIS GREAT LOOKING GREEN 41 HUDSON 8 TRUCK IT'S NOT FOR SALE BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT IN THE ROSTER HE'S NOT A CLUB MEMBER BUT A GOOD FRIEND ALSO THERE IS A NICE 46 HUDSON TRUCK THATS NOT IN A CLUB MEMBERS HANDS IS IN THE NORTH SIDE OF PITTSBURGH BUT NOT FORE SALE TOO ALSO MIKE GOJDEK'S 47 HUDSON HORNET POWERED TRUCK IN NOT IN THE ROSTER

[Deleted User]

You don't have mine either. 41 swb 1/2 ton. S/n C-1037598



Later, Geo

Lee ODell

I know there are many Hudson owner that probably do not know about HET Club yet. Larrys DATA BASE may contain PUs no longer in Roster. I would like to get a copy of his data.

Vic, Rick is into Modified cars. The cab is planned for later model chassis and running gear.

Terry, your 1935 Terraplan G is listed. Took awhile to find it again. You made it quicker by adding Redondo Beach. My Grandparents lived there before moving to Kansas.

1GH thanks for the photo and data. Cool truck.

Paul & Doc, thanks for the input. Love those short PUs. Any chance getting names and Vin #s. I have a 150" long wheel base 47 Hudson PU I would trade for one of those short bed PU. Fat chance. Ha Ha

So far my Dads old white 1946 Hudson PU Vin # 3825906 with 57 Olds eng & automatic has not been registered with Larry. I would love to locate it. My wife and I dated in it. My brother and his wife dated in it. Dad sold it in Dec 1974 while I was away going to aircraft school in Tenn. to a Willa or Willy Greenblatt of Los Angles. Any help locating it would be appreciated.

I would like to start a index of all PUs by vin #s in sequence to see if any were on the same production lline together.

Thanks for all the post fellas.
Lee O'Dell

barrysweet52

How many Hudson ambulances, hearses and other commercial vehicles?

RL Chilton

Lee-

Adjacent vehicles off the line are usually considered "siblings", while two-away are usually "cousins". It would be interesting if you found any with the commercial vehicles, and highly unlikely, I would think with the relatively few survivors.

Lee ODell

Good question Barry. That would be interesting to know. Would you please search the roster for that information. I was getting blury eyed by the time I did a second search in the roster for PUs I did not feel up to expanding the search beyond PU's. Even though I added the Fire Trucks that cought my eye. I did see a ambulence and a hearse. There are probably more of them and other commercial vehicles listed. I was not looking for them. For the time being I will be focused on the PUs. Thanks for asking and I will add your interest to the list any information you gather.

Lee O'Dell

Browniepetersen

Lee, My "hot rod" is a 1928 Essex Roadster Pick up. I am not sure you would want to list it in the roster; but, then again, it does serve as an educational tool each time I drive it because most folks have never heard of an Essex? Missed you at Laughlin, and you missed a chance to see the Essex....

Lee ODell

Brownie I wish I could have been there Brownie. HET PUs in or out of the Roster, original, mod, hot rod, rat rod custom, ect. If its a HET PU it is in. What is your Vin # You notice there are a few stepdown mod and other mod pickups listed. The biggest problem I foresee will be getting non listed vin #s. This project may become as time consuming as a restoration and may become like pulling teeth to get vin info.

Did you find the wheel you were searching for?

Also, I need to get my PU on the road so I can enjoy the adventures you fellas are having with yours.

My email is HETcleescars@yahoo.com for anyone that would prefer to give PU and vin information that way. Remove het. Lunch time. Have a great day.
Lee O'Dell

onerare39

You guys should register at HETclub.org and use the vehicle search button "find a club vehicle".

The Hudson Essex Terraplane Club web site shows the following...

908 pickups
1 sedan delivery
7 panel delivery
1 hearse

John Forkner
New Membership Coordinator
Albright Award Coordinator
Big Country Senior Director
Hudson Essex Terraplane Club

Lee ODell

Thanks John, nearly tripple the number of PUs. Good news. Getting a list copy of the above trucks would be a big help.

The bad news is I have not been able to access the HET webb site. I have tried many times today and in the past but I keep getting a "verificatioon code invalid" message while trying to renew my password. Or sometimes the message says my email is already in use, use another email address. Any help would be appreciated. I don't like getting frustrated.

Anyone have thoughts about how to format the list. My initial thoughts.
Vin # in sequence - year, model PU - owners name - address - phone #

Thanks you all. It is a beginning.
Lee

jjnan58yahoocom

I am restoring a 46 pickup that is not listed in the roster. vin. # is 3876539
Gerald Johnson

Browniepetersen

Lee, I tried your email but it would not work for me. I expect it is me? But this is what I sent:

I now have eight wheels. As luck would have it I have five good ones and three that are good up to 40 mph. When you follow Mike Cherry down the road you should be prepared to go 80 mph. With that, I am now in good shape. I have had it up to 88 mph.

I am bringing the English Hudson to the Western Regional in April and most likely the 54 Hudson (George’s car) to Laughlin next year.

The VIN for my roadster pick up is: 1HXA31AA1AE006604

My insurance and state motor vehicle department does not know what to call it and they made up the number above so it would meet their requirements. This is something that Utah does with all old cars,.

Brownie

Lee ODell

I will contact Aaron
Gerald I need vin. We both have 52 Hornet sedans. I'm sure the truck will also be a #1 condition.
My mistake Brownie. I corrected my email post. Thanks for vin. That may be why I have seen some od vin # in Roster.

Please include vin with new information to hetcleescars@yahoo.com drop het or post here.

Thanks all for more info. Lee

RL Chilton

Lee-

Formatting the list: put it in a pivot table in MS Excel. That way you can click on any category and the list will format itself.

Brownie-
That's a great pic. What building is that?

hudsontech

I'm curious Lee - but aren't you, more or less, duplicating Uncle Josh's Hudson truck registry?? Or maybe not.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

Lee ODell

Basicly yes with a twist Alex.
1. I had an idea to list 46-47 PU vins in sequence to start with on index cards from beginning to end of production using the Club Roster as as source. Mainly as a qurious interest to see if any PUs listed may have been on the same assembly line as siblings or cousins as Russel mentioned. Then to contact Josh to hopfully get a copy of his truck registery to add those vin # in sequence with the other vins.
2. As I was marking the trucks in the Roster I decided to include all PUs and counted how many there were for each year.
3. Then I posted what I had on the forum. As I was posting, it occured to me because I have two PUs not in the Roster others might also have missed the cut off date to be included. So I added the request for them to add to the list their PUs.
4. That brought in more PUs and information about other PUs not even in the club.
The snow ball is getting bigger. Then I find there is 908 PUs listed on the HET web I can not access yet.
5. Then request for all commercial vehicles.
6. Perhaps through the effort more PUs my become known to add to the Russels and HET web list.
7. Is Russels lists and HET web list the same?
8. The snowbal may become bigger than I can handle. Will see how it goes. It looks like the snowball is going to need computer skills I had not anticipated. Will see how it goes. It is exciting to see what new additions to the Hudson PU list will be.
9. This is what has develop so far.
10. If more PUs can be found thats a plus and maybe introduce PU owners that may not know about the HET Club and join the club. I would pass on any new PUs information to be added to the existing list
11. I was surprised about the 340 to 908 count difference between the Club Roster and the HET web.

Lee O'Dell

RL Chilton

Lee-

I agree . . . I think there is something very wrong with the 568-vehicle difference. something is not right, there. I did notice when I was perusing the '52 Hornet convertible list, there were many that were not convertibles, and some that no longer exist and even some duplicates. I think that once you really get into it, you will find that that 908 is erroneous.

Browniepetersen

Russ, that is the Union Pacific depot in downtown Ogden. I added another photo so you can see more of the building. The building houses the Browning arms collection and the Browning Car collection. This is where Doc Hudson stayed during his visit to Utah. The building is about three times the size you see but there is no way to get it all in the photo.

RL Chilton

I thought that's what it was. I've seen that building once before (I love train stations). Great pics!

hudsontech

I think it would be difficult to know just how many pickups were built to start with. Can't go by shipping records because that is just a number of commercial vehicles shipped. Commercial vehicles included pickup, panel trucks, utility coupes and sedans and station wagons. Then there are the dealer or outside built trucks because you could buy just a cab and chassis and have an independent build you a custom body on that frame. Ambulances are another bird in their own right. These, of course, were custom built. In the odd-ball category are sedans converted to ambulances - there were many of these running around Australia back in the 20's and 30's.
The only years that you could possibly use shipment figures for production would b 1946 and 1947 as only pickups were built. I've not yet found out if the factory supplied taxi cabs or utility coupes and sedans in '46 and '47 - tho I know there were business coupes and these were probably lumped into the commercial shipments.


Hudsonly,
Alex Burr
Memphis, TN

barrysweet52

Getting back to the topic of Hudson commercial vehicles, I have an original 1929 Hudson tractor, or so I tell everyone every April 1st.

Lee ODell

HEE HEEE HEE HAA HAA HAA. Thats funny. Thanks for the humor. Makes me feel better.

Forgot to ask whats the vin# please?
Lee

ESSX28-1

Barry, Is this your Hudson tractor ??

Lee ODell

Well I have a beginning with 1947 PUs listed by vin number in sequence.
First group are PUs listed as 1947 but vin doesn't match 1947 PUs.
Second group are listed as 1947 but no vin numbers in roster.
Third group are 1947 vin numbers from lowest vin # to largest vin #. A few are listed as 1946 but have 1947 vins or error in vin number.

There are 2 different families that have a 1947 PU with same vin number.

58 model-Whitehead, C. J. B. -----------listed as 47 no vin #
162450-Russell, Thomas S & Jean
383400-McQueen, Kevin L. & Sharon------listed as 47
3821451-Karrar, Jeffrey & Sherel ---------listed as 47
3851285-Albers, Delvin-----------------listed as 47
3878702-Tavares, Edmond & Edwina------listed as 47
4877302-Murphy, Cletus----------------listed as 47
1754996-Murphy, Cletus----------------listed as 47
49176888-Riles, Paul & Cathy------------listed as 47
517852393-Anderson, Curtis & Helen------listed as 47
none- Vocelle, Dennis & Yani
none-Becker, Delton & Helen
none-Polkus, Joe & Theresa
none-Albright, Barbara A
none-Burke, Tom & Lynn
none-Galassi, David & Deborah Symons
none-Cook, John Franklin & Ruby
none-Mathews, Robert D. & Barbara
none-Shoemaker, Everett & Mona
none-Spring, Perry & Kay
none-Newberry, Jack
none-Fullerton & Nancy Delf, Dan
none-Boyd, George & Nancy
none-Dunn, Jack
none-Mass, Russell & Lisa
none-Welti, Jim & Pat
none-Harbrecht, Robert & Ruth
none-Kight, Cliff
none-Moler, Bob & Penna
none-Orr, Clinton
none-Hardy, Pepper & Joyce
none-Bixby, Thom & Doris
none-Chisholm, Walter
none-Clark, Richard & Sun ----listes as 46 and 178 PU, can not be both, one or other
none-Mitchell, Mike & Sandyu
none-Nelson, chuck & Jane
none-Johnson, James & Bev
none-Peralta, Manuel & Ida (New Mexico)
none-Serino, Joseph & Annetta
none-Russell, Harry & Florence (Ohio)
none-Bell, Grace
none-Perkins, Si & Sharon
none-Mike's Service Center (Penn)
none-Peiper, Hap & Carol
none-Vorse, Chhuck & Carol (Penn)
none-Buchanan, Braden
none-Heeke, Rick & Barbara (Texas)
none- Huebert, Mark & Helen and (Tex)
none-Huebert, Mark & Helen
none-McPike, Jason A and (Tex)
none-McPike, Jason A
none-Kristiansen, Gert
none-Dike-Smith, Daphne (Wash)
none-Sutliff, Orlin ( Wisc) and
none-sutliff, Orlin
1782305-Doran, Alan
1785370-Cramer, Larry & Gail
1785536-Henry, Robert & Joan
1786227-Cohen, Peter & Skylar
1787146-Stevens, David & Diana
1788442-Amman, Kay
1789691-O'Dell, Lee & Bettie
17810082-Brown, Sara & Patrick
17811028-Hudson, Dave & Susan
17812170-Olsen, Steve & Susan
17812179-Tallent, Roger
17812218-Fellows, Ron L.
17812518-Thorin, Thomas
17813408-Anderson, Danny & Mary
17813498-Ellis, Vern & Kristine --- listed as 1946
17813524-Jaegle, Gerald
17814528-Myers, Frank & Mary
17814925-Brownell, Paul R.
17815714-Spencer, Cory R============Same vin
17815714-Wentz, David & Shelia=========same vin
17815761-Jacobsen, Ray & Carol & Eric
17818351-Fitch, Charles #. & Sue
17819646-Redding, David
17820526-Moore, Ralph
17821010-Davis, Jeff & Donna
17821742-Bryson, Steven T
17821822-Wilson, Glenn V & Louise A
17823103-Bogg, Albert L.
17824768-Sage, Wayne D. & Virginia
17825105-Zimmer, Ben & Gretta
17827013-Webb, Clinton & Dianne
17827267-Gingerich, Burl & Carol
17828351-Welzbacker, Steve, Bea & Hannah
17828369-Faust, Matthew B. & Melissa
17829849-Petty, Jeremy & Brooke
17830391-Dittrich, Robert & Ramona
17832521-McNeill, Neill
17832619-Leeden, Edward & Lorraine
17838012-Bayne, Kevin & Robbin
17838162-Hudson, Dave & Susan
17838916-Souza, A. J.
17840017-Heitkamp, Mike & Kathy
17840059-Swann, Daniel & Deborah
17840072-Andreassen, Roland
17842317-Wells,l Mervin R & Clara
17843561-Billig, Carl
17843680-Webber, Bob E.
17843724-Nelson, Curtis
17843772-Cooper, Aaron K. & Dathryn
17845872-O'Dell, Lee & Bettie
17846140-Arlt, Ernest & Faye
17849137-Staymates, Ron & Geneine
17849288-Place, George
517852393-Anderson, Curtis & Helen ---------vin error?
17853680-Kemp, Phillip & Maryann
17853702-Cartier, Victor & Susan
17854731-Redding, David
17854739-Tomlinson, Bob T.
17854893-Weyrauch, Wayne & Joyce
17855819-Tibbitts, David L.
17855845-Myers, Frank & Mary===========listed as 46
17857052-Sanchez-Flores, Erwin
17858004-Jones, Paul & Gloria============listed as 46
17858286-O'Dell, Lee & Bettie
17861152-Jacobsen, Ray & Carol & Eric
17861168-Murelaga, Phil & Anita
17877137-Richter, Steve & Dina
17877256-Fitzgerald, William & Sue
17878540-Carlton, Jeff & Michelle
17879561-Crow, Steve D.
17879578-Hawley, Harry & Jane
17879683-McMillan, Terence F. & Mary E.
17880609-Christensen, Kevin
17880931-Woodbury, Ross & Sandra
17881737-Johansson, Hans
17882828- Woodruff, Charles & Ok Ju
17884404-Southerland, David C.
17884460-McCarthy, Thomas & Janice
17885353-Creasy, Larry & Linda
17885466-Seaton, Ira W & Deborah
17885561-Lewis, Tom & Brenda
17885605-Crome, Ken & Rose

As time permits I will update with new vin numbers. Also, work on all the other years as well.

I hope those in group 2 will want to add their vins to the list. One of my goals is to see if any number will be brothers.

To save time I only included names. Any other info can be found in the HET Roster.

I will include PUs from none club members also. Besides name it would be good to include their vin #, phone number and address would be welcome. Hope this may be a small incentive to gain new club members.

I gave some thought to searching previous HET Club Rosters also.

What do you think so far?
Lee O'Dell

PS I forgot to add email address for anyone wanting to add Pickup vin number to list.
hetcleescars@yahoo.com drop het

oldhudsons

I've looked thru the Roster, seen guy's name BUT they do NOT list the cars they own, just their name & address.
Here's a photo of the only "factory built" stepdown PU; used to be in So. Calif. but think it's now in the mid-west.

Uncle Josh

Here is Jeff Green's 37 Terraplane Doodlebug (Tractor)
Original 212 (rebuilt by Cramer's garage)
Front tranny is original T. interlocked 3 speed
Rear Tranny appears to be a 4 speed Ford truck
Rear end and wheels appear to be military Dodge
13 Speeds ahead, 7 in Reverse Figger that one out!

hudsontech

Not really germane to the subject, but a commentary on multiple drive vehicles. Years ago my Dad had a 1943 Dodge tank retriever truck. Dual rear axle so it had 10 wheels. Had a huge dual tranny with 6 speeds, high and low range, out of each one so 12 speeds overall. It was synched so you could put both trannys in gear at the same time - in the same speed range, of course. You could also select 2 wd using just the front axle; 4 wd using one rear axle; 6 wd using front and one rear axle; 8 wd using both rear axles; or 10 wd using all wheel drive.
The transmission gear ran in oil - that was a wonder. Had a drain plug in the bottom to drain the oil; then you could remove the side covers and fix a broken gear - all gears were split and bolted together in halves so very easy to replace a bad gear.
It had a 16 foot bed that, from pictures I've seen, originally held a crane arrangement for hauling tanks, half-tracks and other heavy equipment out of the mud or ditch.
Dad used it to haul logs out of the woods to a saw mill he had. You could have moved a house with that thing. Put the low range tranny in first (lo-range) and put it in 10 wd and it would climb a mountain - at about 3 mph.

Lee ODell

Uncle Josh, looks like a heavily modified unrecognizable 1937 Terraplane PU to me. It's in. Any chance it has a vin #?
Interesting information Alex. That would be a fun one to play with.
Lee O'Dell